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Post by Cosmoline on Jul 3, 2018 16:10:13 GMT
There's a peculiar position that appears in medieval art where the sword seems to be tucked all the way around by the left ear, pointing down and forward. It could just be a 2D artifact, but in response to a discussion about it I did some tests to see what could be done from it. It turns out to be a good launching point for a moulinet-style cut and also allows for a short-edge cut.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 3, 2018 19:23:53 GMT
I enjoyed that Cosmoline, both the cut and the shield. The shield is most similar to the unpainted one I got from KoA made by Windlass(?). What does that one weigh and thickness? I’ll try that cut as soon as I get some more targets. Your hood really caught my eye as just last night I decided that I wanted one and was searching online. I found several that caught my eye but the one that most interested me cost about double (of course) the others and the fact I liked it was that it was of wool. With the exception of one other that was wool but lined making it, I think, a bit stiff and thick for my purposes, the others were of canvas. The reason I like wool is from my experience nothing except propylene matches it for comfort in the wet. Could you tell me something about yours? Thanks
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Post by pgandy on Jul 3, 2018 19:59:03 GMT
On a further note concerning your shield, I see edge damage. I cannot see well but it looks like abrasive type, but maybe you just knocked some paint off. I had to paint mine but so far no edge damage. The only damage has been the adhesive holding the covering let go on the back. I caught it before the covering totally came off. The arm padding on the rear lost some of its adhesion, both probably due to the high humidity. I was able to tack it back in place. Whatever material Windlass used for the shield is as hard as a rock and I couldn’t drive a tack in without making pilot holes first. Getting back to the abrasions, I just finished making a shield and after I thought I was finished I began to question the durability of the covering at the edges thinking of the vulnerability overtime to abrasions and nailed a rope around the circumference to prevent that. Only time will tell but I think the rope will give good protection.
Now to go outside and practice cutting air using your ward.
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Post by Cosmoline on Jul 3, 2018 20:18:54 GMT
I enjoyed that Cosmoline, both the cut and the shield. The shield is most similar to the unpainted one I got from KoA made by Windlass(?). What does that one weigh and thickness? I’ll try that cut as soon as I get some more targets. Your hood really caught my eye as just last night I decided that I wanted one and was searching online. I found several that caught my eye but the one that most interested me cost about double (of course) the others and the fact I liked it was that it was of wool. With the exception of one other that was wool but lined making it, I think, a bit stiff and thick for my purposes, the others were of canvas. The reason I like wool is from my experience nothing except propylene matches it for comfort in the wet. Could you tell me something about yours? Thanks Thanks! The shield is indeed the bog standard Windlass. It's padded and likely intended for boffer play. I'm planning on stripping it down and redoing the straps to be more historically correct. But it's not too bad as is.
The hood is my own make and is part of my 14th century hand-sewn kit. I used surplus army blanket wool lined with 100% linen from Joanne's fabric. I sized it pretty tight, but probably not as tight as a true period hood would have been. I prefer some air flow. It's great in the rain and I can unfold the rim to make it like a sleeping bag for my head. Combined with the lined garde corps it's awesome in cold weather.
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Post by Cosmoline on Jul 3, 2018 20:20:41 GMT
Also a word of warning--I added the secret helm because there's a potential threat of cut to the left ear if you jiggle the blade wrong. Usually they did this ward in harness so maybe it's an inherent risk but I'd suggest putting at least a basic cap on for this one.
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Post by pgandy on Jul 3, 2018 22:44:39 GMT
Thanks for the warning. I did it bear headed and still have my ear. But the whole time I was wondering about my helmet. It is a kettle and seemed like the brim would be asking for it. The next time I’ll use my entire head kit and see what happens.
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Post by howler on Jul 3, 2018 23:56:05 GMT
There's a peculiar position that appears in medieval art where the sword seems to be tucked all the way around by the left ear, pointing down and forward. It could just be a 2D artifact, but in response to a discussion about it I did some tests to see what could be done from it. It turns out to be a good launching point for a moulinet-style cut and also allows for a short-edge cut.
I see many a vile plastic adversary lay slaughtered at your triumphant feet. Was it a Windlass XIV that did the deed?
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Post by Cosmoline on Jul 4, 2018 2:42:17 GMT
It's my Albion! A Yeoman aka "my precious." Very nice sword for tight spaces.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Jul 4, 2018 9:15:22 GMT
Thanks for sharing! With the shield out there I think this ward has some legit uses!
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Post by pgandy on Jul 4, 2018 15:43:23 GMT
Cosmoline I was back at it this morning neglecting my chores to check this out with my kettle hat. It will work but the arm starts a little higher, resting on the helmet’s brim. Otherwise it’s easy for the brim to catch the sword or arm itself. No targets to cut yet so it was only air with much freedom of movement on my part. The stance appears to give at least a good cutting swing as the second ward in 1.33 maybe a bit better. Am looking forward to obtaining more targets so that I can do actual cutting.
In your cutting demo you had a jug at a fixed height dictating where the cut would go and it is clear that you were attacking with the sword. For me with no such thing I was free to play around and it looks like in combat and using that stance one could attack with the shield (I think of the shield as my primary weapon) striking at the opponent’s face (teeth in a real situation) with the edge of the shield. This would act as a diversion, at least, if you connect more the better. But the move is really a feint. While the opponent’s attention is distracted bring the sword in low making a cut, possibly targeting a leg, maybe gut. By the time the blade gets around it should have built up much momentum making a decisive cut. Most people think of the sword as the principle weapon and will not be expecting that. Just a suggestion. I think the position has excellent possibilities for combat. Thanks.
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Post by Cosmoline on Jul 4, 2018 19:19:27 GMT
Yes, I think the shield or buckler would have to be engaged with whatever the opponent had in front of him. A strike to clear the weapons would make the moulinet easier, and if opposed to his high left would potentially create an opening to the low left.
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