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Post by lostarrow on Jun 20, 2018 4:56:04 GMT
Hello, I'm still a noob and i get most of my info from reading. So I think I may be pronouncing some words . Is this how it's said?
Sageo say go Saya say ah Ito. ee toe Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Post by MOK on Jun 20, 2018 5:07:51 GMT
More (but not exactly) like:
Sah-geh-aw
Sah-yah
Ee-taw
In romanized Japanese, A is pronounced like the u in "up", E as in "get", I as in "it", O as in "hot" and U as in "put".
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Post by nbhraizo on Jun 20, 2018 14:24:43 GMT
Sageo - sah gay oh Saya - sigh - ah Ito - ee toe
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Post by randomnobody on Jun 20, 2018 15:58:16 GMT
The fun thing about Japanese sounds is they're almost-always pronounced the same. For vowels, they have a-i-u-e-o, pronounced "ah" "E" (like saying the English letter), "ooh" (see ooh, ah) "eh" and "oh" typically. Romanization varies, sometimes you'll see see the long O sound as -o, -ō, or -oh. Where it gets really fun is sometimes the U is silent. Tsuki, for instance, is the Japanese word for the moon. It's pronounced, most commonly, "tski". Many struggle with the tsu sound, it's tricky. So is the R, it's somewhere between R and L in other languages. Rolls a bit. There was a big war once over the pronunciation of "tsuka" where some suggested the u was silent, others insisted it was pronounced. I've only seldom heard anybody talking about their "tska" though. Even the Japanese I've heard talking about swords have a bit of a U in there. I've never heard anybody argue against pronouncing the U in "tsuba"... So yeah, sah-geh-oh, sah-yah, E-toh. For more fun: koshirae. Koh-shee-rah-eh. Inflection, you see, is hard to do with text. I often catch myself and others just saying "koshiray" because whatever, close enough.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jun 20, 2018 16:30:42 GMT
Interesting, we Germans pronounce the japanese terms the same way (and with a little u after the ts) naturally. I wasn't sure if you english speakers would pronounce it like: saejoe - saejiah - eyetoo
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Post by MOK on Jun 20, 2018 19:38:21 GMT
Romanized Japanese is actually very simple to read, at least on a basic level, once you get the hang of it. The real trick is that Japanese (and most other languages, too, including English) is not really written letter by letter but syllable by syllable. And almost every syllable in Japanese is either a lone vowel or a consonant followed by a vowel, sometimes with an N at the end to round it out. The vowels are always pronounced essentially the same regardless of the letters around them, unlike in English, and the consonants only change in a few very specific circumstances. All vowels written with a single letter are short, there are no diphthongs, and long vowels are simply stretched instead of sliding into other vowel sounds - e.g. the long O is pronounced like "awe", not "oh". So the word sageo, for example, should not be read as s-a-g-e-o, but sa-ge-o: three distinct syllables, each with a standard pronounciation that remains the same from word to word - the "sa" in "sa-ge-o" is the exact same as the "sa" in "sa-ya". Where it can get confusing is with the various competing methods used to signify long vowels (as mentioned by randomnobody, above), some of which are really not well thought out at all... Personally I would favor simply doubling the letter, due to its simplicity and clarity (and maybe because that's how it's done in my native Finnish ), but for whatever reason it's not among the most popular or officially recognized systems.
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Post by admin on Jun 29, 2018 3:40:57 GMT
Has a function where you can click to hear each word pronounced by a native speaker, tips on mnemonics and how to remember the word and links to a detailed description of the component, what it is for, what it is usually made from, common issues, etc.
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Post by RaylonTheDemented on Jul 2, 2018 21:26:42 GMT
Interesting, we Germans pronounce the japanese terms the same way (and with a little u after the ts) naturally. I wasn't sure if you english speakers would pronounce it like: saejoe - saejiah - eyetoo Same here, french pronunciation is much the same as far as vowels go. I've been told it is much easier to learn japanese from french than from english for example, though 'easy' should be a relative term here...
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Post by lostarrow on Jul 11, 2018 16:26:27 GMT
The fun thing about Japanese sounds is they're almost-always pronounced the same. For vowels, they have a-i-u-e-o, pronounced "ah" "E" (like saying the English letter), "ooh" (see ooh, ah) "eh" and "oh" typically. Romanization varies, sometimes you'll see see the long O sound as -o, -ō, or -oh. Where it gets really fun is sometimes the U is silent. Tsuki, for instance, is the Japanese word for the moon. It's pronounced, most commonly, "tski". Many struggle with the tsu sound, it's tricky. So is the R, it's somewhere between R and L in other languages. Rolls a bit. There was a big war once over the pronunciation of "tsuka" where some suggested the u was silent, others insisted it was pronounced. I've only seldom heard anybody talking about their "tska" though. Even the Japanese I've heard talking about swords have a bit of a U in there. I've never heard anybody argue against pronouncing the U in "tsuba"... So yeah, sah-geh-oh, sah-yah, E-toh. For more fun: koshirae. Koh-shee-rah-eh. Inflection, you see, is hard to do with text. I often catch myself and others just saying "koshiray" because whatever, close enough. Very interesting thank you
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