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Post by winteriscomingxii on May 30, 2018 9:03:49 GMT
...So I bought them both! That's always my preference when I find two things I really like, and it's rare that I'm able to do it, but right now I was able, so I did! When I was in the store I said I wasn't going to, but I know it's inevitable that I'll end up dual wielding these at some point in my back yard at an inanimate object.
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Post by bluetrain on May 30, 2018 9:48:13 GMT
Although it probably makes more sense with revolvers, I've always thought using two handguns at once was a very interesting exercise. Among other things, I think it increases your skill with using your left (usually) hand. But I also think it works best when using two identical handguns. In my case, all my practice was with two S&W revolvers with 5-inch barrels. Very old-fashioned. Otherwise, with just a single revolver, using my left hand was very difficult.
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Post by winteriscomingxii on May 30, 2018 9:55:10 GMT
Although it probably makes more sense with revolvers, I've always thought using two handguns at once was a very interesting exercise. Among other things, I think it increases your skill with using your left (usually) hand. But I also think it works best when using two identical handguns. In my case, all my practice was with two S&W revolvers with 5-inch barrels. Very old-fashioned. Otherwise, with just a single revolver, using my left hand was very difficult. I have trained with my left hand a decent amount when shooting seriously. It's definitely a task that takes some practice, weather shooting with one or two pistols, one handed or using both hands. I don't think I'll ever need to use my left hand in an emergency situation (now that I've retired from the military). But you never know. Dual wielding both of these would just be purely for s*its and giggles though I've always wanted a pair of good ole colt single actions that I could practice dual wielding though. Maybe I'll luck up and find them back in stock at some point, they usually sell pretty fast when they become available. If not I'll get a couple Rugers one day.
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Post by bluetrain on May 30, 2018 11:09:48 GMT
An odd thing about some ideas about proper conventions about using handguns is how you are expected to always use both hands when shooting, yet to never carry empty chamber because you might not have two hands available. Perhaps one is injured, the usual scenario given, but presumably always assuming it will be the left hand. I still personally think it is safer to carry chamber empty, given the likelihood of ever needing to draw your gun, with an acceptable accident rate of zero. Shooting yourself would be very, very embarrassing.
Ever had an incident of pressure in the holster causing the magazine to be released?
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Post by winteriscomingxii on May 31, 2018 9:08:24 GMT
An odd thing about some ideas about proper conventions about using handguns is how you are expected to always use both hands when shooting, yet to never carry empty chamber because you might not have two hands available. Perhaps one is injured, the usual scenario given, but presumably always assuming it will be the left hand. I still personally think it is safer to carry chamber empty, given the likelihood of ever needing to draw your gun, with an acceptable accident rate of zero. Shooting yourself would be very, very embarrassing. Ever had an incident of pressure in the holster causing the magazine to be released? Luckily out of all my gun toting days I've never had an accidental magazine ejection. I've seen it happen many times, in civilian life and military. I don't bother with fancy inside the waistband holsters, which are usually the types that will allow that to happen. I do conceal my gun when I carry it (even though I live in a open carry legal state) because I feel more comfortable concealing it. I usually wear an outside the waistband, rigid kydex holster that covers the mag button and prevents it from accidentally being pressed. I agree with what you said about carrying a round in the chamber. If I'm carrying a striker fired gun (Glock, Springfield XD, S&W Shield etc.) then I definitely prefer to not chamber a round. Although my preferred method of carrying is to carry a double/single action semi auto with a decocker, a round in the chamber with the hammer up (decocked). This is, in my personal opinion, the safest method of carrying a loaded handgun. First trigger pull is extremely heavy, heavy enough that the gun (with a proper holster) won't accidentally be fired unintentionally. Every shot after the first shot has a nice, light single action pull.
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Post by bluetrain on May 31, 2018 11:14:32 GMT
I imagine that everyone has their own idea of what an "extremely heavy" trigger pull. My Walther PPQ has what I consider a much too light trigger pull. But my P99, a double action/single action with decocker is just about right in both forms. Mind you, I have no problem with anyone else carrying a pistol in whatever manner they wish, providing they allow me the same choice. I guess they're all safe enough. I've never heard of anyone having an accident with a Glock. However, one issue with carrying with a chambered cartridge is frequent manipulation of the pistol, unless you leave the gun with a chambered cartridge all the time. Some of my guns are always loaded but none have a chambered cartridge. My knives are always sharp, too.
Well, pretty sharp, anyway.
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Post by harrybeck on May 31, 2018 13:33:50 GMT
I carry docked and locked 1911, the way it was meant to be done.
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Post by Striderfly on Jun 4, 2018 22:06:59 GMT
beautiful! I have always liked the CZ line. (always wanted a 75-B) And the 92 is a classic.
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Post by winteriscomingxii on Jun 19, 2018 7:04:15 GMT
beautiful! I have always liked the CZ line. (always wanted a 75-B) And the 92 is a classic. Thanks, the CZ has turned out to be about my fav. pistol. It outshoots anything I've got, including my Nighthawk Heinie Recon.
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Post by bluetrain on Jun 19, 2018 10:04:06 GMT
I carry docked and locked 1911, the way it was meant to be done. Oh, I just figured out what you meant by docked. You mean a bobbed hammer spur, probably.
I don't know how it was meant to be carried by the original US Army NCO manual indicates that it was to be carried chamber loaded, hammer down. The same manual said to only carry five rounds in a revolver. The rule changed by the time I was in the army for some reason.
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Post by harrybeck on Jun 19, 2018 12:55:14 GMT
Actually I meant to type cocked and locked. My spellcheck strikes again.
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Post by bluetrain on Jun 19, 2018 13:55:14 GMT
Sometimes spellcheck won't let me write what I want to.
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Post by tonystark on Jun 28, 2018 15:20:49 GMT
winteriscomingxii I like the way you think. When in doubt, buy both! LOL I have a Beretta 92A1, a CZ P09, and am in the process of buying a CZ P01 compact (Omega). They are both reliable and accurate handguns, so kudos on your purchases 👍🏼
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Post by rjodorizzi on Jun 28, 2018 16:11:07 GMT
PO9 value for the price is really really high. Solid gun.
Happy shooting!
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Post by tonystark on Jun 28, 2018 17:18:47 GMT
PO9 value for the price is really really high. Solid gun. Happy shooting! It really is! Everyone always talks about the P-07, and the Phantom (with good reason of course), but people tend to forget the P-09. I know it’s considered a “duty gun,” but it’s 19+1 rounds and typical CZ quality. Thanks!
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Post by winteriscomingxii on Jul 3, 2018 1:32:13 GMT
winteriscomingxii I like the way you think. When in doubt, buy both! LOL I have a Beretta 92A1, a CZ P09, and am in the process of buying a CZ P01 compact (Omega). They are both reliable and accurate handguns, so kudos on your purchases 👍🏼 Thanks! As someone else said, the P09 is a great gun... especially the value of it. I always tend to lean towards full sized duty guns. And I'm really wanting a P01 too though. Especially the P01 that matches the 75 I have. Great taste you have!
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Post by tonystark on Jul 3, 2018 9:35:34 GMT
Great minds think alike! 😉
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