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Post by tonystark on Jul 11, 2018 2:18:46 GMT
They are all knowledgeable guys, and good sources for tips on carrying concealed, ballistics, and like you said “drilling & training!” I think you are a big fan of the 1911 platform because it’s unquestionably dependable, super accurate, and it shoots the always epic .45! Sorry, you had asked why 1911’s always catch your eye and I forgot to respond 😉
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Post by Croccifixio on Jul 11, 2018 2:24:50 GMT
I think they just look really good. :D
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Post by tonystark on Jul 11, 2018 14:34:06 GMT
Of course there’s that too 😁LOL
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Post by Croccifixio on Jul 12, 2018 2:12:14 GMT
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Post by tonystark on Jul 12, 2018 2:55:47 GMT
You would pick the super expensive one LOL I’m not the biggest Kimber fan either, but I’m pseudo-interested in this carry model: grabagun.com/kimber-45acp-ultra-covert.htmlSo when are you coming to the U.S on a student Visa so you can go gun shopping?! 😉 |
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Post by Croccifixio on Jul 12, 2018 4:12:16 GMT
You would pick the super expensive one LOL I’m not the biggest Kimber fan either, but I’m pseudo-interested in this carry model: grabagun.com/kimber-45acp-ultra-covert.htmlSo when are you coming to the U.S on a student Visa so you can go gun shopping?! 😉 Haha, I have a 10 year tourist VISA and might go late this year, just to visit relatives (and gun ranges). Sadly can't bring any home with me. Yeah that's actually one of the more reasonable models they have here, but there are just so many complaints about Kimber (moreso than RIA) that I'm more than skeptical. Although locally, rich gun owners act snobbishly at the range over those with RIAs hehe. |
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Post by tonystark on Jul 12, 2018 17:22:22 GMT
What about becoming an importer? Is it very expensive? I found this information on a website that was citing Firearm Law: (G) AUTHORIZED IMPORTER REFERS TO ANY PERSON, LEGAL ENTITY, CORPORATION, PARTNERSHIP OR BUSINESS DULY LICENSED BY THE FEO OF THE PNP TO ENGAGE IN THE BUSINESS OF IMPORTING AMMUNITION AND FIREARMS, OR PARTS THEREOF INTO THE TERRITORY OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES FOR PURPOSES OF SALE OR DISTRIBUTION UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ACT. Not sure if it costs a fortune to become an Importer, but it probably is 😕 Oh, here’s the website I found the information on: www.pbdionisio.com/philippine-firearms-law/ Not quite sure how accurate/up-to-date the information is though. I’ve considered getting my FFL license, but I don’t buy THAT many firearms! (Not for lack of trying though) My Arex Rex Zero 1 Compact comes in tomorrow. Kimber is considered kind of a “snobby gun owners gun” here too. Not by me, but I’ve heard guys judging other guys just by what they’re shooting. Real mature! LOL |
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Post by Croccifixio on Jul 13, 2018 5:00:51 GMT
Gun importation is an interesting business, but you’d need healthy capital. Licensing alone will cost you $2000. Then you’d need to go through various police and customs offices, and get certificates from them... a pretty big hassle, and not worth it unless you really commit to the business. And as a business, it’s nowhere near as profitable as US gunstores. Last but not least, you’d need to cozy up to top police generals and I don’t think I have the stomach for that  Most gunstores here are in fact owned by former police and military generals and their families. I wonder why Kimber owners are snobbish. Their guns look nice but have a hit-or-miss reputation. I myself want that ultra covert, a micro 9, and maybe a crimson custom, but would never think less of RIA, Norinco, or Taurus 1911 owners here just because my gun was 8 times more expensive. |
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Post by tonystark on Jul 13, 2018 7:31:07 GMT
I see what you mean now. It’s still a shame that the prices are as inflated as they are! Maybe Kimber or Springfield will open a plant in the Philippines soon?? I know, wishful thinking, but it would still be awesome. Have you seen Rock Island’s semiauto 12 gauge? It’s pretty interesting looking, and it’s got rails on it for flashlights and I think a red dots (if I’m not mistaken). I don’t know if all Kimber owners are “really” like that, or if it’s just a misconception thought up by insecure gun owners that can’t afford to own them....... Don’t worry, I don’t think owning a higher priced 1911 will change who you are as a person! 😉
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Post by bluetrain on Jul 13, 2018 10:06:50 GMT
Am I the only one here who prefers Colt over anything else?
When I was in the army, we had an arms room with lots and lots of pistols. We had Colt revolvers, too, as well as .32 or .380 Colt pistols but I never got a chance to see who made the .45s, since they were made by more than just Colt. Even then, the newest one would have been at least 20 years old.
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Post by Croccifixio on Jul 13, 2018 12:08:48 GMT
I see what you mean now. It’s still a shame that the prices are as inflated as they are! Maybe Kimber or Springfield will open a plant in the Philippines soon?? I know, wishful thinking, but it would still be awesome. Have you seen Rock Island’s semiauto 12 gauge? It’s pretty interesting looking, and it’s got rails on it for flashlights and I think a red dots (if I’m not mistaken). I don’t know if all Kimber owners are “really” like that, or if it’s just a misconception thought up by insecure gun owners that can’t afford to own them....... Don’t worry, I don’t think owning a higher priced 1911 will change who you are as a person! 😉 That’s made in Turkey. Martin Tuason had an interview about it. They’re expanding their line to Rock Island Armoury Imports. But yeah I want that shotgun too :) But great news! One of the biggest gunstores here just opened gunex.ph, basically our version of gunbroker! Just checked the prices and there are really nice guns for half their retail price! |
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Post by William Swiger on Jul 13, 2018 12:18:15 GMT
From the internet:
World War II and the years leading up to it created a great demand. During the war, about 1.9 million units were procured by the U.S. Government for all forces, production being undertaken by several manufacturers, including Remington Rand (900,000 produced), Colt (400,000), Ithaca Gun Company (400,000), Union Switch & Signal (50,000), and Singer (500).
So many 1911A1 pistols were produced during the war that the government cancelled all postwar contracts for new production, instead choosing to rebuild existing pistols with new parts, which were then refinished and tested for functioning. From the mid-1920s to the mid-1950s thousands of 1911s and 1911A1s were refurbished at U.S. Arsenals and Service depots. These arsenal rebuilds consisted of anything from minor inspections to major overhauls of pistols returned from service use. Pistols that were refurbished at Government arsenals will usually be marked on the frame/receiver with the arsenal's initials, such as RIA (Rock Island Armory) or SA (Springfield Armory).
From 1972 to 1981 a modified M1911A1 called the RIA M15 General Officer's Model was issued to General Officers in the US Army and US Air Force. From 1982 to 1986 the regular M1911A1 was issued.
After World War II, the M1911 continued to be a mainstay of the U.S. Armed Forces in the Korean War and the Vietnam War. It was used during Desert Storm in specialized U.S. Army units and U.S. Navy Mobile Construction Battalions (Seabees), and has seen service in both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom, with U.S. Army Special Forces Groups and Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance Companies.
Official adoption of the Beretta 92F was on January 14, 1985.
During the Gulf War of 1990 to 1991, M1911A1s were deployed with reserve component U.S. Army units sent to participate in Operation Desert Storm.
By the early 1990s, most M1911A1s had been replaced by the Beretta M9, though a limited number remain in use by special units.
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Post by William Swiger on Jul 13, 2018 12:20:31 GMT
All the 1911 models I shot in the Army were Colt before the Beretta came out.
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Post by bluetrain on Jul 13, 2018 12:55:28 GMT
I'll take a rifle any day. In fact, that's all I was ever issued. My son was for a while issued a pistol, since he was a tank crewman, but they were later turned in and everyone got either a rifle or a carbine.
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Post by William Swiger on Jul 13, 2018 15:49:01 GMT
I carried the M16 the majority of the time. Was a pain in the butt when not outside the wire.....
To be honest, the pistol to me in military life is just a secondary weapon to be used at very short range. There are times when a pistol makes more sense than a rifle. |
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Post by tonystark on Jul 13, 2018 17:10:27 GMT
I see what you mean now. It’s still a shame that the prices are as inflated as they are! Maybe Kimber or Springfield will open a plant in the Philippines soon?? I know, wishful thinking, but it would still be awesome. Have you seen Rock Island’s semiauto 12 gauge? It’s pretty interesting looking, and it’s got rails on it for flashlights and I think a red dots (if I’m not mistaken). I don’t know if all Kimber owners are “really” like that, or if it’s just a misconception thought up by insecure gun owners that can’t afford to own them....... Don’t worry, I don’t think owning a higher priced 1911 will change who you are as a person! 😉 That’s made in Turkey. Martin Tuason had an interview about it. They’re expanding their line to Rock Island Armoury Imports. But yeah I want that shotgun too  But great news! One of the biggest gunstores here just opened gunex.ph, basically our version of gunbroker! Just checked the prices and there are really nice guns for half their retail price! I’m not the biggest fan of semiauto shotguns, but the one review I’ve seen of it was very positive. Yeah I had a feeling that one would catch your eye. We can’t all afford a Benelli M4, as unfortunate as that is! That is AWESOME news!! I’ve been hoping the prices would drop for you. 😁 |
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Post by reynolds on Oct 30, 2018 3:43:56 GMT
the reality of 1911's is that they are probably the most finicky design extant. They need careful tuning in order to be reliable with swc's or jhps, and high quality mags. They are grossly overpriced, heavy, huge clunks, unless you get a compact alloy framed model. The ones shorter than a Commander have even more reliability issues. When I qualified with the 1911 in 1971, they had to have an armorer's truck at the range. The 100 pistols that they had, had each fired 50 rds, every week, for decades. The armorer was BUSY replacing barrels, mags, front sights, extractors. Almost all of the ww2 era guns had had their barrels ruined by corrosive primed ammo.
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Post by William Swiger on Oct 30, 2018 10:17:52 GMT
the reality of 1911's is that they are probably the most finicky design extant. They need careful tuning in order to be reliable with swc's or jhps, and high quality mags. They are grossly overpriced, heavy, huge clunks, unless you get a compact alloy framed model. The ones shorter than a Commander have even more reliability issues. When I qualified with the 1911 in 1971, they had to have an armorer's truck at the range. The 100 pistols that they had, had each fired 50 rds, every week, for decades. The armorer was BUSY replacing barrels, mags, front sights, extractors. Almost all of the ww2 era guns had had their barrels ruined by corrosive primed ammo. Most all the rifles and pistols I fired at the range over 25-years in the Army were pretty worn out...….lol Constant issues on the firing line.
Still like the 1911 design and have a few. Prefer the CZ 75 platform and clones.
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Most gunstores here are in fact owned by former police and military generals and their families.
