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Post by althesmith on May 2, 2018 12:12:11 GMT
...The forward part of the grip as well as the braided wrapping were basically dust and splinters, I plan on restoring/rebuilding the grip. The blade's not bad. Both edges are very sharp, I'm thinking Phillipine insurrection period? The asang-asang is iron or steel, but it appears to have been soldered onto the blade. The guard is traditionally forge-welded to the blade, which is about 20" long. The marks seem to show that it's a trade blade,as do the three fullers- Solingen? The blade is quite substantial and quite stiff and springy, indicating to me that it's pretty much all-steel rather than laminated.
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Post by pgandy on May 2, 2018 13:08:16 GMT
Looks like restoration will be an interesting project.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on May 2, 2018 13:30:22 GMT
Unusual to see a recycled Western blade in a kris, but it was done. Here are a couple of interesting sabre-krisses: www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18102www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18784The blade is quite substantial and quite stiff and springy, indicating to me that it's pretty much all-steel rather than laminated. Built from a Solingen trade blade, it won't be laminated. You can't tell from flex-testing it, though, unless you bend it far enough so that a laminated blade would be damaged (the carbon content and heat treatment doesn't change how easily the blade flexes, just how easily it breaks or takes a set).
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Post by althesmith on May 2, 2018 19:39:21 GMT
I've been making blades long enough to get a good idea of the overall hardness with a bit of flexing. Blades that are mostly iron will take a set and straighten pretty easily in my experience. Through-hardened blades if warped enough to take a set are a pita to straighten- it can be done but experience is your best friend here. It is possible to through-harden a laminate depending on materials chosen. But I agree with you, most likely it is monosteel. The shape has been reworked into a traditional style, though, which I find interesting and the guard is very traditional and well-executed.
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Post by treeslicer on May 3, 2018 7:39:36 GMT
Yep, looks authentically Moro to me too. BTW, "Kris" is the proper term for the Moro sword. "Keris" refers to the Indonesian/Malaysian laminated dagger. You can find a lot of info on both of these at the Ethnographic Arms & Armour Forums The kris will be covered on the Ethnographic Weapons forum, while the keris will be in the Keris Warung Kopi forum.
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Post by Svadilfari on May 3, 2018 9:25:33 GMT
Please disregard this post. I didn't read the original post closely enough..my bad :)
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