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Post by pgandy on Apr 10, 2018 1:27:13 GMT
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Post by christain on Apr 10, 2018 2:45:52 GMT
That is definitely on my 'must have before I die' list. But, for me, a Scotch-Brite pad and some WD-40 will be in order. I like the darkened, rough finish, but I think it will benefit from a scrub-down. Good choice, pgandy! Hope you enjoy it!
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Post by harrybeck on Apr 11, 2018 16:17:14 GMT
I have the longsword version, really like it
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Post by selohr on Apr 12, 2018 14:58:19 GMT
I got the Acre and was regretting not getting Agincourt instead, but since removing the black finish I kind of found new love for it. Still want to get Agincourt too though...š
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 14:20:54 GMT
Have the Bosworth... absolutely great considering the price:
- no gaps - no bents or warps - good peening
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Post by William Swiger on Apr 14, 2018 0:31:44 GMT
Thanks for the review.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 15, 2018 20:11:41 GMT
Itās been about a week since receiving the sword and during that time Iāve been learning and I might add enjoying my sword. To tell the truth there were no surprises and itās about what I expected when ordering. It handles well in one hand leaving me with a free hand for a shield or dagger, whatever. It is fast with good point control and penetration. Not the best cutter out there but by no means is impotent, about what I expected. It is easily handled in one hand and fast.
I was so busy playing and having a good time I nearly forgot a video until my target supply was nearly depleted. I did make a video of a few cuts but if youāve seen one youāve seen them all so I was tempted not to post but said what the heck.
The video shows the factory edge. After the week of cutting the edge would still cut paper but not as cleanly. I was hoping that the 1065 steel would do better, perhaps I was expecting too much. It didnāt take long with the Work Sharp KO to touch it up with a shaving sharp edge. And I found one more bottle and drank lots of orange juice for the second that I targeted this morning. I could tell a difference with the sharper blade.
As for penetration, my throw rugs that I used in the past were showing the signs so I bought new ones. I couldnāt find duplicates of what I had. The old ones were .133ā thick and I would often use 6 ply making a total thickness of .798ā. The new rugs measure .189ā and have a tighter weave. In this case I used 4 ply giving .756ā with a tighter weave. I got complete penetration on the plastic jug. It is a thruster and lacks some in the cutting department.
That is by no means saying it wonāt cut. It just wonāt cut as well as some of my other swords when it gets to the more difficult jugs. Itās only about Ā¾ā wide at the CoP. My spadroon is about 1ā wide and wonāt cut heavy walled gallon jugs. There was no problem with lighter targets as seen in the video but it would not halve a gal plastic jug. It would cut Ā¾ or more of the way through making a nasty cut. While I suspect it will make a nasty cut wound on lightly armoured opponents I do not expect amputation. I did not try after sharpening the blade. Will have to do that at a later date.
I tried twice before running out of targets to make a double cut. The first time I was successful but the target was off camera. The second time I came in too low, hitting the cutting board. I took a slice out of the board as can be seen briefly in the upper part of the video. No damage was done to the blade.
OK, the final two clips made the next day after finding a bottle and drinking lots of orange juice for breakfast, I also had sharpened the blade making it shaving sharp the day before. Only had two targets but could tell a difference with the sharper blade.
I did have trouble at first cutting with both hands but found the secret. I was originally using the same grip that I do with my German Bastard Sword, that is primarily with the pommel. With the Agincourt when I moved my lower hand farther up on the grip all fell in place.
I am convinced that I made a good decision with the BattlecryAgincourt. I havenāt had time to order the thread to wrap the grip nor make a better fit between the sword and sheath. Itās been a while since Iāve enjoyed a sword this much. I enjoy comparing my other hand and a half sword which is slower and heavier with better hand protection but delivers powerful cuts to the Agincourt which is almost the opposite in every respect.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 15, 2018 20:59:05 GMT
Pgandy, thank you so much for taking the time and effort to share your experiences. This corroborates my reasons to order. You can tell that by now Iām looking very much forward to arrival. The Agincourt seems to be a quick and nimble sword, Iām really excited. Loved the vid, too, many thanks! Will be looking forward to your opinions.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 19, 2018 22:12:54 GMT
I am glad that your Agincourt arrived and is to your liking. Your impressions closely follow mine. I am surprised with the limited penetration, perhaps when you sharpen it that will change. The durability of the finish is beginning to impress me. At first I had serious doubts but after a week of many cuts, a sharpening, and a few more cuts this week it appears as it did the day it arrived. The only change Iāve noticed is that the sword is freer in the scabbard. No rattle or such but when inverted the sword slides out. This does bother me as the draw is faster. Iāve never understood people that complained about the sword not staying in an inverted sheath. That doesnāt bother me as the draw is faster. When it rattles or bounces around is another story. The only sword that I find more comfortable to carry is my XIV as it is shorter.
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Post by christain on Apr 19, 2018 22:19:38 GMT
Dang-it! SOLD. Gotta have one to swing around and scare the crap outta my dogs. You guys are the worst influence on my life, ever....and I wouldn't trade it for anything. The wife may kill me, but I'll go out with steel in hand.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 19, 2018 23:24:38 GMT
Go for it. You won't regret this one.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 21, 2018 16:36:37 GMT
@markusagain Do you know the weight or denier of the denim you used? Iāll try to get the same.
For the Agincourt review I used new rugs that I wasnāt sure how the comparison between them and the old rugs were. They were folded to Ā¾ā thickness and placed over a plastic gallon jug. To get the relative comparison with other swords I repeated the demo with my other swords that were designed to give point. The Agincourt made it completely through as did my P1796. My German Bastard Sword would only barely penetrate the front of the jug, the deepest penetration was only about 2ā, the others less. This morning I tried Windlassā XIV as it was the only thrust designed sword that I hadnāt tried. Not only did I get complete penetration it made the biggest, nastiest hole of the lot. I have and always have had the highest regards for the XIV sword. It will out cut the Agincourt, make a significantly larger hole. And is the best carrying sword I own. But in a tight I think that Iād grab the Agincourt first because of the longer reach and it is not as tiring to use.
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Post by pgandy on Apr 21, 2018 20:07:09 GMT
You jogged my memory. I have some denim from jeans that I stashed away years ago. I donāt know why I cut the legs as the denim feels about like new. It is 14.5 oz., heavier than most jeans and I have a hard time finding this stuff but it wears like iron. I was in a rush racing the clock and rain and just threw up the jug and put 4 plies of this over it, gave a thrust and the Agincourt literally bounced off knocking the jug to the ground. At first I was surprised which quickly changed to disappointment. I was rushing to a 1300 lunch date and the rain had just begun. I sat down and meditated over the event and what I did wrong. Afterwards I tried again. This time taking my time and thinking about what I was doing instead just going through the motions to get the job done. I got complete penetration, stopping only due to arm length. I didn't measure but the denim was about half-way up the blade. I did so with one hand and finger wrapped over the quillon.
The plane of the day was to improve the fit between the sword and sheath at the throat. Iāve done everything but. Iāll try again tomorrow.
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Post by howler on Apr 21, 2018 20:46:55 GMT
@markusagain Do you know the weight or denier of the denim you used? Iāll try to get the same. For the Agincourt review I used new rugs that I wasnāt sure how the comparison between them and the old rugs were. They were folded to Ā¾ā thickness and placed over a plastic gallon jug. To get the relative comparison with other swords I repeated the demo with my other swords that were designed to give point. The Agincourt made it completely through as did my P1796. My German Bastard Sword would only barely penetrate the front of the jug, the deepest penetration was only about 2ā, the others less. This morning I tried Windlassā XIV as it was the only thrust designed sword that I hadnāt tried. Not only did I get complete penetration it made the biggest, nastiest hole of the lot. I have and always have had the highest regards for the XIV sword. It will out cut the Agincourt, make a significantly larger hole. And is the best carrying sword I own. But in a tight I think that Iād grab the Agincourt first because of the longer reach and it is not as tiring to use. I donāt know about the weight or denier of the denim I use, it's from some jeans pants of normal thickness. With two hands and a lot of momentum, I can make it through four layers, but not reliably so. I think youāre right, itās because of the sharpness (or lack thereof) of the very tip. I used to own the Windlass XIV and think of it as a very nice sword. But Iād also choose the Agincourt in almost any scenario I can think of. I`ve also done some tire pell training this morning, and the pommel developed an ever so slightly ātickā, a - very - minor twisting motion, almost unnoticeable. It occured pretty early and didn`t get worse during perhaps hundreds of strikes, so I think it should be fine. I think the Agincourt is a very well-made sword and that it handles fantastic - quick, powerful, responsive in all measures and techniques. That Agincourt sounds like a wonderful sword, and would be the probable choice in the open (vs XIV) due to balance and reach advantage (XIV being good in certain tight spaces). Man, ANOTHER sword to the list...and pile of sharp and pointy's.
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Post by howler on Apr 22, 2018 0:42:58 GMT
That Agincourt sounds like a wonderful sword, and would be the probable choice in the open (vs XIV) due to balance and reach advantage (XIV being good in certain tight spaces). Man, ANOTHER sword to the list...and pile of sharp and pointy's. Really not trying to open a can of worms here, but as much as I like the XIV, I think the Agincourt has the āedgeā (not literally), also in confined spaces. I strongly feel the XIV needs a shield or at least a buckler to reach its full potential, while the Agincourt works well with a shield or buckler and without it. Its abilities to stab directly from a bind, two-handed leverage (especially when half-sworded, and then doing especially well in dominating the high line when facing, letās say a shorter sword and buckler combo, for example) and the opportunity to have a free hand for moving along the length of the weapon, creating leverage, grappling and opening doors etc. are rather huge pros, at least in my perception. You would certainly know more than I, as you indeed know more than I about swords, and you've handled both yourself (so you at least know for yourself the best pick). You know what I think of the advantages regarding reach (longsword vs katana thread), but that Agincourt has more two hand ability, so that is a wildcard that may trump shorter blade for confined spaces (without offhand or shield). The XIV as committed stabber would indeed (as you point out) be a better one hand option in confined space if a shield (or maybe offhand dagger) were introduced. Also, as a project piece, I wonder what someone like yourself could do to make that XIV better (perhaps shorten POB with tactical grinding, as it may scream for modification to some)?
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Post by pgandy on Apr 22, 2018 0:49:16 GMT
pgandy , is your Agincourt able to slice standard copy paper with the last half inch at the tip? Mine is not... Perhaps I should take some time for an evening with some sand paper... The bevels seem to meet just fine though... IDK. Yes, see my video. Those cuts were made with the factor edge. Iāve since sharpened and was able to shave with it. I started to say but since sharpening Iāve āplayedā with it and now Iām not sure about the shaving. Then I decided not be so lazy and went into the next room and tested, it will still shave. And that surprised me. That one continues to surprise and impress me. Sorry, I missed the Ā½ā part. I cannot not remember the factory edge exactly other than the video. At present that part will cut copy paper, but not as well as farther up. Nor will that part shave. It looks like all of that use is beginning to tell, but not enough to resharpen at this point.
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Post by howler on Apr 22, 2018 5:32:19 GMT
Also, as a project piece, I wonder what someone like yourself could do to make that XIV better (perhaps shorten POB with tactical grinding, as it may scream for modification to some)? I always thought of the XIV of being a nice sword as is, a well-handling, durable piece, which is perhaps better suited to be used with slightly bigger shields than the ācommonā 12ā bucklers, and perhaps a bit better suited for armored fighting than Blossfechten (not that it couldn`t do that, lol). Cosmoline pointed out that it gave nice feedback in a bind, due to having mass in the blade (of course it also has plenty of mass in the hilt, too), and although I havenāt tried it blade to blade, Iām sure of this being the case. However, Iād be surprised if a lighter sword, like the Kingston Arms, for example (which Iāve never handled), wouldnāt speak more to most people, for Blossfechten. I going to have to get into shields more, I think. Armor...that's a whole other kettle of fish.
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