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Apr 3, 2018 15:05:05 GMT
Post by Pino on Apr 3, 2018 15:05:05 GMT
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Apr 3, 2018 17:48:09 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 3, 2018 17:48:09 GMT
Very helpful. I enjoy reading over the Kaisers Bunker but much of the others are new to me.
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Apr 4, 2018 6:14:56 GMT
Post by Uhlan on Apr 4, 2018 6:14:56 GMT
Thank you very much for this. Gives some much needed oversight. I scraped some PDFs from Deutsche Blankwaffen, but this list is much better to work with. One thing though: You forgot to mention that the R for Reserve unit is always in the same cursive curly script. Does not matter what weapon, here it is a gun, that R is always the same and stands out from the more blocky other letters. Yes, I defenitly vote for this to be made a sticky.
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Apr 4, 2018 6:36:15 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 4, 2018 6:36:15 GMT
I second that vote. Very useful and informative - would be shameful if it was buried. Also very well written to boot.
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Apr 4, 2018 15:45:30 GMT
Post by Uhlan on Apr 4, 2018 15:45:30 GMT
Here's another picture to make it more clear. Reserve Artillery Munitions Kolonne. Always that typical R.
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Apr 6, 2018 2:07:31 GMT
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Post by likehotbutter on Apr 6, 2018 2:07:31 GMT
Copied and saved offline
Great post all!
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May 13, 2018 0:57:36 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 13, 2018 0:57:36 GMT
NOOOO I was just going to use this dang it.
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May 27, 2018 4:30:08 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 27, 2018 4:30:08 GMT
Pino, Uhlan, what would you make of the stamping 7.T.E. (and what looks like) 1.9.4 The only photo is a seller photo and I have yet to pick up the sword. Will be in by the first week so I may not even get to play with it before I leave for the summer. But still I am very curious, what is the E for?
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May 27, 2018 12:10:05 GMT
Post by Pino on May 27, 2018 12:10:05 GMT
7th Train ersatz battalion; not sure how 1.9.4 can be interpreted since normally it is 2 numbers (regt + weapon no). I think the 1 is for a specific German state Train rgt. More to follow on this.
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May 27, 2018 14:45:08 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 27, 2018 14:45:08 GMT
Thanks Pino. Ersatz like the late WW1 German stuff?
The weapon this is on is a KS52/79, if that helps put any information in context for you.
Edit: oh, Ersatz like replace. Googled the meaning and found reference to feldersatz units, figure it's a similar function.
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May 27, 2018 17:02:08 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 27, 2018 17:02:08 GMT
Going through the wiki page for train replacement battalions it seems like the two that are numbered with 1 are the East Prussian Train Battalion No. 1 and the 1st Rhenish Train Battalion No. 8.
But since 1 is a region code then perhaps it could be the Schleswig-Holstein Train Battalion No. 9, and weapon number 4? I think that would match the markings more, but I'll keep digging around.
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May 27, 2018 17:10:36 GMT
Post by Pino on May 27, 2018 17:10:36 GMT
This is the it: Westfalische Train Erstaz-abteilung no. 7, 1st squadron, weapon no 94. It was created around August 1914 and made up of 3 squadrons, much probably attached to VII Armee-Korps during WW1. Additional info about this regiment here
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May 27, 2018 17:23:28 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 27, 2018 17:23:28 GMT
Good reading. Thanks Pino I see I had a flawed perception of how the numbers work, as I was quite far off lol. Thanks for the link and info, I'm beginning to like how the Germans marked their weapons so methodically.
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May 27, 2018 18:13:36 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 27, 2018 18:13:36 GMT
Ah yeah, but at least it's better than we Americans with no markings, unless an officer wanted it When I get it in hand I'll be able to get a better look at the markings, and a better feel for the sabre. I found this apparently post 1903 fellow on the wiki page as well, with a KS52/79. From reading it would seem as though the train battalions got somewhat outdated equipment compared to normal soldiers, or perhaps a cut and thrust sword was preferred over the thrust centric KD89. imgur.com/fAbEbeO
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May 27, 2018 20:36:05 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on May 27, 2018 20:36:05 GMT
And the least trenchfoot too maybe! If was possibly going to be attacked by cavalry (maybe as they thought would happen in the early war?) I would want the ealier more fighty stuff.
Also interesting note on the cuirassier swords. I had assumed by 1889 all cavalry used the KD89.
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Nov 9, 2018 16:27:34 GMT
Post by Uhlan on Nov 9, 2018 16:27:34 GMT
Here is an addition to the stamps. Courtesy of Deutsche Blankwaffen Forum, who must get all credit for digging up wonderful stuff like this. I just stole it. ,, As King George of England was also King of the German State of Hannover, the Hannoverian Cavalry got the first batch of British P1796 LC's to fight Napoleon with. The Blücher came later, as Pino already stated above. The stamps on these P1796 LC are for Hannover (German) units, but made by the British armourers. So, they are done in the distinct English style of that time ''. 1 :: 1 :: Hannover P1796. Marked in the English style. Truppenstempel: Der m. E. letzte geschlagene Stempel ist wie folgt zu übersetzen: K - Regiment Kronprinz-Dragoner, II - 2. Division (2. Zug) D - 4. Schwadron, 48 - Waffe Nr. 2 :: 2 :: Freiwilliges Bremen-Verden´sches Husarenregiment - Freiwillige Bremen-Verden´sche Husaren. I know. This information is quite esoteric. But relevant when talking German markings. According to Pino the Bremen - Verden'sches Hussars fought under Bernadotte, who we find a little later as King of Sweden. Man, I love those interwebs!
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Nov 9, 2018 17:40:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 17:40:34 GMT
Good stuff.
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Nov 11, 2018 19:56:45 GMT
Post by Uhlan on Nov 11, 2018 19:56:45 GMT
Another oddity: See that funny U? And the rest is all numbers? I found the answer here: www.seitengewehr.de/ Scroll down until you find: Preussen, Königreich: Anmerkungen zu preussischen Truppenstempeln um 1820 - 1860. PDF-Datei. The solution: 3. Artillerie Regiment; 3. (third) 6 pfunder Batterie; Waffe nummer 24. The 6 and the funny U stand for the calibre. This way of stamping started in 1867, when the first 6 pounder batteries were erected and stopped in 1870 when the calibre notation was discarded. Right before the Franco - German War? Heads up to Seitengewehr. He has many interesting PDF's for free download. Cheers.
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Nov 12, 2018 2:31:26 GMT
Post by Pino on Nov 12, 2018 2:31:26 GMT
Aha, see what I mean with oddballs being pain in the 455? It's a good thing you found this valuable info on Seitengewehr, didn't expect them to have something about these!
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