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Post by legacyofthesword on Feb 12, 2018 0:30:38 GMT
I'll second what a lot of other members have been saying: the designs kind of aren't in my area of interest. Heck, even the designs I submitted to the contest weren't very interesting to me - I basically forced myself to come up with something, which isn't exactly the correct way to make a great design. Frankly, I'm a little tired of the whole oversized tactical tribal knife look: machete like blade, handle scales, no crossguard, etc.. They're great designs if you're into that kind of sword/knife, but I'm not really....
If I'm going to get a fantasy sword, I'd want something a little crazy, something over-the-top (unusually shaped sword, colored blade, spikes, things like that); instead of understated, weathered looking designs. Or something that looks more like a classical Medieval or Asian sword - for instance, something like you see with Fable Blades. I do realize that a design like that would cost a lot more to make (probably more than I could afford) but there it is.
I do like the The Early Aelutian Gladius, but there are a lot of other swords I want to buy that are higher up on my list....
Hope that helps. I don't like offering (or getting) criticism, but I do know it's necessary (and often helpful!).
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Post by Pink Pummy on Feb 12, 2018 0:41:23 GMT
Yeah, I think it would be a most unhealthy business decision to limit the promotion to just SBG itself. Word of mouth only goes so far with such a small initial audience. Is there any reason not to list these on KOA? I assume they were listed on here only for starters, because well, they're SBG member designs and limited production, wouldn't want random people snatching them before giving us a chance. Though, definitely makes sense to spread the news now. |
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Post by Deepbluedave on Feb 12, 2018 2:07:05 GMT
I had glanced at these briefly when the winners of the comp were announced and at the time could not work out why both the Goblin King's Sword and the Orc Kings War Cleaver where both chosen with them being so similar, in the regard of them both being small two handed choppers. I don't think this style of sword sells very well to begin with so making two so similar to me seemed odd, of the two, The Orc Kings War Cleaver was the real winner with it's simple flowing lines and blackened blade I liked it and thought of buying for my brothers Birthday, the Goblin Kings Sword just comes across as the cheaper looking version, even with that cut-out on the spine and they are just too similar in size and weight. The Gladius I liked the look of, this would be a good little back yard cutter, but glancing at KOA in Ancient swords( www.kultofathena.com/swords-ancient.asp ) this market seems saturated with similar designs at a much cheaper price. When I look at buying a new sword I look at what else is available on the market for that price range Scorpion swords has some great designs I really like but for me it is either a case of I'm saving for something specific or I'm not ready to put that amount of money into something unknown, the Gladius would cost me AU$500 to get it to my door, I have bought an Albion Hospitaller on the second hand market for that same amount. So the value for money is not there for me, I have to judge it against what is available in the market for that price, I also consider how will this purchase sit in my collection, do I really need it, is it similar to something I already own and what am I going to use it for too many no's or maybe's and I have to give it a pass, for most people, budget and available funds is the first hurdle in any sword purchase. |
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Feb 12, 2018 5:28:05 GMT
This has been my concern. I'll automatically look away from any makers that do not do no distal taper. Chris, doesn't usually put a distal tapper on his blades and swords needs a distal tapper or they handle like crap. |
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Post by Croccifixio on Feb 12, 2018 6:52:48 GMT
This is the first time I have seen these. I use to fallow all the sword design contest(I still remember the first one from Arms of Valor. Both of the proto-types were sent to me for reviews and I did a review for the Flames of Angels.) but I pretty much stopped fallowing them because the designs that win I don't care for. The biggest reason I see why these swords are not selling is there are no stats. I'm not going to buy a sword by picture alone and no stats and I think my sword brothers and sisters here aren't going to either. Chris, doesn't usually put a distal tapper on his blades and swords needs a distal tapper or they handle like crap. Reviews are very important when trying to sell new swords and this line only as one that was done by the designer. Croccifixio, didn't have the weight, POB, or cutting video. Croccifixio, has been a member here long enough to know how important knowing the weight and POB is. He just put the length and thickness down without the weight and POB. Because of this I get the impression that this is a beast of a sword. The Early Aelutian Gladius: I personally don't like this design. If I was looking for a gladius, I would rather get one that is more historical. Goblin King Sword: This sword looks like something straight out of BUD-K and it's 5mm thick with no distal tapper. The only thing I think that BUD-K would do differently is use 4mm stock instead of 5mm. The Orc King War Cleaver: This design interest me. I like it but I bet this doesn't have a distal tapper so that thing is going to be a heavy beast of a beater and not very fun to cut with. I know there are some members here that like beater swords so there should be a lest a cutting video for this one....or any of them. I wasn't able to measure the weight of the Goblin King, but it's pretty hefty. Above 2 lbs for sure. Definitely not ideal for 1 handed use. POB is actually pretty fair, at around 5 inches (I have an antique with a farther out POB) but I'm of the belief that POB means next to almost nothing. It means a little bit if you have the weight, but not much else. And yes, zero distal taper. As for video, I took one but didn't post it ever since my youtube account got wonky uploading my vids (low res, and not properly oriented). Not much to speak of anyway - it's sharp enough for water bottles but that's about as far as I went with cutting. I understood well in advance that Scorpion Swords did not put distal taper on their swords, and the concept itself did not actually ask for a lot. It was a purely, fantasy-ish sword out there that I threw in because I was just cramming designs in my spare time (though I did like this one). Ultimately, it looked the part to my mind, in a homage of sorts to the Orcish scimitars of the LOTR movies as a kind of just purely brutish and hacking weapon. I like it for what it is! But for someone with a collection that includes Albions, A&A, customs, or even H/T euros? Not a lot to write home about. My few points here to help out Paul: 1. Market has gotten competitive. The pricing is too high in my view for a weapon that's relatively simple (no crossguard, slab handles, etc). 2. Market NOW tends to favor historical swords. This one is just really the simple truth. Increased awareness of HEMA and swords to the public means that people are more discerning. Add to the fact that you can quickly ask something on Facebook and get an immediate reply, it's much easier to get good information from people on what makes a good sword (distal taper, proper heat treat, blade harmonics, strong construction). So while the build itself is sturdy enough, people will definitely call it out on bad handling (which is a fair point, but not that relevant IMO for pure fantasy builds - even top pattern-weld smiths have put out pretty crowbars that sell for $3000). 3. Wrong market. I'm not too sure that the current sword community is the proper market for these, since we mostly know what we want and know what we can get with our money. True, the initial feedback was positive, but it was not produced by a company like Albion or designed by Angus Trim or John Lundemo. Its real market is in fantasy sword junkies/preppers who don't really give a hoot about things like distal taper or historical plausibility, but would just love a SHTFish type of sword or a decently priced fantasy piece. Which in my opinion, these three swords hit. Kinda like ZT, but those things have an aesthetic that's pretty unique. Still, no one ever said a ZT was an agile sword. At the end of the day, I'm aware of other winning designs (such as one of mine) that might be more appealing to the sword community at SBG, and which will be made by a forge that understands handling and taper... but since their production is a little slow, this is what we get, and it's fine for what it is. Just not priced at the point where people on SBG will grab them up. I think the highest they'll go at a decent pace is $200. But there's something for everyone out there. As an addendum, I'm currently modifying the Goblin to be leaner since its length really screams 1 handed use. Hopefully extra grinding can do the trick. For now though, it's a nice and unique display piece in the office (separate from the antiques, of course :D wouldn't want people questioning the Goblin Kingdom's place in history). |
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Post by stormmaster on Feb 12, 2018 7:15:46 GMT
This is the first time I have seen these. I use to fallow all the sword design contest(I still remember the first one from Arms of Valor. Both of the proto-types were sent to me for reviews and I did a review for the Flames of Angels.) but I pretty much stopped fallowing them because the designs that win I don't care for. The biggest reason I see why these swords are not selling is there are no stats. I'm not going to buy a sword by picture alone and no stats and I think my sword brothers and sisters here aren't going to either. Chris, doesn't usually put a distal tapper on his blades and swords needs a distal tapper or they handle like crap. Reviews are very important when trying to sell new swords and this line only as one that was done by the designer. Croccifixio, didn't have the weight, POB, or cutting video. Croccifixio, has been a member here long enough to know how important knowing the weight and POB is. He just put the length and thickness down without the weight and POB. Because of this I get the impression that this is a beast of a sword. The Early Aelutian Gladius: I personally don't like this design. If I was looking for a gladius, I would rather get one that is more historical. Goblin King Sword: This sword looks like something straight out of BUD-K and it's 5mm thick with no distal tapper. The only thing I think that BUD-K would do differently is use 4mm stock instead of 5mm. The Orc King War Cleaver: This design interest me. I like it but I bet this doesn't have a distal tapper so that thing is going to be a heavy beast of a beater and not very fun to cut with. I know there are some members here that like beater swords so there should be a lest a cutting video for this one....or any of them. I wasn't able to measure the weight of the Goblin King, but it's pretty hefty. Above 2 lbs for sure. Definitely not ideal for 1 handed use. POB is actually pretty fair, at around 5 inches (I have an antique with a farther out POB) but I'm of the belief that POB means next to almost nothing. It means a little bit if you have the weight, but not much else. And yes, zero distal taper. As for video, I took one but didn't post it ever since my youtube account got wonky uploading my vids (low res, and not properly oriented). Not much to speak of anyway - it's sharp enough for water bottles but that's about as far as I went with cutting. I understood well in advance that Scorpion Swords did not put distal taper on their swords, and the concept itself did not actually ask for a lot. It was a purely, fantasy-ish sword out there that I threw in because I was just cramming designs in my spare time (though I did like this one). Ultimately, it looked the part to my mind, in a homage of sorts to the Orcish scimitars of the LOTR movies as a kind of just purely brutish and hacking weapon. I like it for what it is! But for someone with a collection that includes Albions, A&A, customs, or even H/T euros? Not a lot to write home about. My few points here to help out Paul: 1. Market has gotten competitive. The pricing is too high in my view for a weapon that's relatively simple (no crossguard, slab handles, etc). 2. Market NOW tends to favor historical swords. This one is just really the simple truth. Increased awareness of HEMA and swords to the public means that people are more discerning. Add to the fact that you can quickly ask something on Facebook and get an immediate reply, it's much easier to get good information from people on what makes a good sword (distal taper, proper heat treat, blade harmonics, strong construction). So while the build itself is sturdy enough, people will definitely call it out on bad handling (which is a fair point, but not that relevant IMO for pure fantasy builds - even top pattern-weld smiths have put out pretty crowbars that sell for $3000). 3. Wrong market. I'm not too sure that the current sword community is the proper market for these, since we mostly know what we want and know what we can get with our money. True, the initial feedback was positive, but it was not produced by a company like Albion or designed by Angus Trim or John Lundemo. Its real market is in fantasy sword junkies/preppers who don't really give a hoot about things like distal taper or historical plausibility, but would just love a SHTFish type of sword or a decently priced fantasy piece. Which in my opinion, these three swords hit. Kinda like ZT, but those things have an aesthetic that's pretty unique. Still, no one ever said a ZT was an agile sword. At the end of the day, I'm aware of other winning designs (such as one of mine) that might be more appealing to the sword community at SBG, and which will be made by a forge that understands handling and taper... but since their production is a little slow, this is what we get, and it's fine for what it is. Just not priced at the point where people on SBG will grab them up. I think the highest they'll go at a decent pace is $200. But there's something for everyone out there. As an addendum, I'm currently modifying the Goblin to be leaner since its length really screams 1 handed use. Hopefully extra grinding can do the trick. For now though, it's a nice and unique display piece in the office (separate from the antiques, of course  wouldn't want people questioning the Goblin Kingdom's place in history). I agree with Croccifixio the market is pretty saturated atm with tons of quality pieces at this price point or lower, i think it would do this line well to advertise it everywhere possible not just the sbg forums, maybe if you offered slight modifications for each piece it would help with sales? for example while I like the blade of the goblin king i am not a fan of the grip or the runes on the blade, if you let people make slight changes like a single color wood grip and no runes or slightly different runes that would help people get something they really like. as for the weight both the gladius and the goblin are 2.9 pounds which is a bit on the high side for a single hander, the orc king however is 2.6 pounds which is not bad since it has a much longer handle so it seems suited for 2 hand action. Personally I just am a fan of more traditional fantasy pieces like the ones fableblades or jeffery robinson does where the blade is more typical of medieval euro swords but the fittings are cast bronze or just a more fantasy design, I think that is where the fantasy market for swords is at atm, it does not even have to be super decorated like the 2 producers i've listed, windlass has some fantasy offers that are hugely popular like the raptor and the blacksword overall i think that these 3 swords could be a hit if marketed more outside of just sbg, maybe make a series of videos and share them on facebook about how truly indestructible each sword is, I know that is a big selling point of scorpion swords is their indestructibility, so make it be shown and have it in big letters on each sword page |
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Post by sevicler on Feb 12, 2018 7:45:23 GMT
@jordanwilliams glad to hear you like the Castir (I'm the designer). I actually didn't expect that one to win the contest, considering that there are way more fantastical-yet-practical designs that people have submitted.
Speaking of which, I am kind of at a loss as to why some of the winning entries actually won. Including my own entry, not that I am ungrateful for it. Especially because in my opinion I had better designs than the Castir.
(Please Note: I do not mean to offend anyone by making this lengthy comment. It is just my opinion.)
Most of the winning entries are utilitarian, as in; they are useful in a hypothetical combat situation but lacking in the aesthetics department. Just like real swords.
Keyword: REAL SWORDS
Fantasy swords were always meant to look really well and functionality is considered secondary (or just look really nice and non functional -- I.e. Kit Rae swords). Even though the goal of the contest were to create functional-yet-fantasy swords, one cannot really discard what makes fantasy swords fantastical -- their appearances.
Now, I didn't know and still do not know what the winning criteria were. It could be historically-inspired looks and blade geometry. It could be the backstory behind each blade. It could be the unusual and perhaps anachronistic design elements that combine into one really unique design. It could be anything, really.
But the fact to the matter is; none of the 3 bonus winners (the ones in question right now) really screams FANTASY DESIGN. All of them are too utilitarian. Especially the Shortsword-type winning entries, including two of the original 4 winning designs. (MY HONEST OPINION)
One quick question for you to consider:
Do short-swords and gladius-type blades sell nicely even when they're tied to a fantasy world/story? As in, have you ever seen a fantasy movie/read a fantasy book (aside from Lord of the Rings which had some incredibly beautiful designs, though perhaps the only short-sword people want from LOTR is Frodo/Bilbo's Sting) and think to yourself; 'Hey I really want that hero's short-sword' instead of 'Hey that hero's longsword/katana/greatsword looks incredible and I really want it'?
Maybe not, right?
In my personal opinion, people have always liked longer swords more than shorter swords. They look better in the hands of the protagonist/villain, immediately draws attention, and in general people have always believed that the longer/bigger sword = the better sword.
Don't ask me I dunno why. Maybe they think that short-swords always lose 'cause longer swords can stab you further?
Again, most of the more famous fantasy swords from pop culture have always been longer swords. Rarely any short-swords. I'm actually not too surprised that these 3 designs didn't sell well. The only famous fantasy short-sword I can name off the top of my head would be LOTR's Sting.
Famous longer-swords I can name: Anduril/Narsil (LOTR), Frostmourne (World of Warcraft), Soul Edge/Soul Calibur (SC Series), Atlantean Sword (Conan), Master Sword (Legend of Zelda).
Heck, even actual legends from various ancient and medieval civilizations hardly ever feature short-swords as the hero's weapon. At least the more famous legends, mind you.
So yeah, maybe next time we can focus on longer-swords instead of short-swords when we want to sell fantasy swords?
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Post by Razor on Feb 12, 2018 8:33:56 GMT
This is the first time I have seen these. I use to fallow all the sword design contest(I still remember the first one from Arms of Valor. Both of the proto-types were sent to me for reviews and I did a review for the Flames of Angels.) but I pretty much stopped fallowing them because the designs that win I don't care for. The biggest reason I see why these swords are not selling is there are no stats. I'm not going to buy a sword by picture alone and no stats and I think my sword brothers and sisters here aren't going to either. Chris, doesn't usually put a distal tapper on his blades and swords needs a distal tapper or they handle like crap. Reviews are very important when trying to sell new swords and this line only as one that was done by the designer. Croccifixio, didn't have the weight, POB, or cutting video. Croccifixio, has been a member here long enough to know how important knowing the weight and POB is. He just put the length and thickness down without the weight and POB. Because of this I get the impression that this is a beast of a sword. The Early Aelutian Gladius: I personally don't like this design. If I was looking for a gladius, I would rather get one that is more historical. Goblin King Sword: This sword looks like something straight out of BUD-K and it's 5mm thick with no distal tapper. The only thing I think that BUD-K would do differently is use 4mm stock instead of 5mm. The Orc King War Cleaver: This design interest me. I like it but I bet this doesn't have a distal tapper so that thing is going to be a heavy beast of a beater and not very fun to cut with. I know there are some members here that like beater swords so there should be a lest a cutting video for this one....or any of them. I wasn't able to measure the weight of the Goblin King, but it's pretty hefty. Above 2 lbs for sure. Definitely not ideal for 1 handed use. POB is actually pretty fair, at around 5 inches (I have an antique with a farther out POB) but I'm of the belief that POB means next to almost nothing. It means a little bit if you have the weight, but not much else. And yes, zero distal taper. As for video, I took one but didn't post it ever since my youtube account got wonky uploading my vids (low res, and not properly oriented). Not much to speak of anyway - it's sharp enough for water bottles but that's about as far as I went with cutting. Knowing the weight, POB, and thickness of a blade, I can get a idea how the sword will handle. The POB is important because it helps to show where the weight is distributed. If the POB of a sword is 2" than the weight is more towards the hilt and the sword isn't going to strike as hard as other swords with their POB further out. A sword with a POB 5" the weight of the sword is more forward out and it's going to strike with more authority. Take two sword that the same but the only different is the POB, Sword 1 has a POB 5" and sword 2 has POB 3". The sword 1 has no distal taper so it's going to be more of a wrist breaker than sword 2. Sword2 has a distal taper and that moves the weight closer to the hand. This sword it going to be more agile then sword 1. Since we know both swords weigh the same but we don't get the POB, we really don't know that one sword will handle better than the other. We will not know how the weight is distributed on these swords. |
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Post by Croccifixio on Feb 12, 2018 8:34:58 GMT
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Post by Croccifixio on Feb 12, 2018 8:36:41 GMT
Razor but that somewhat assumes that it's a steady distribution of mass. With a tapered tang for instance, the mass below the POB might be the same as if the tang weren't tapered but the feel when held and moved is going to be very different.
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Post by sevicler on Feb 12, 2018 8:42:30 GMT
That depends on what kind of price point we're expecting for each blade. Sure, if they sell for the exact same price as these three short-swords they can be bestsellers. I don't think that will be the case. |
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Post by Croccifixio on Feb 12, 2018 8:58:12 GMT
That depends on what kind of price point we're expecting for each blade. Sure, if they sell for the exact same price as these three short-swords they can be bestsellers. I don't think that will be the case. Even assuming they're higher, I think they will at least do better than the first three. But stranger things have happened. And given the plethora of options at this price point that are very attractive (HT, VA, Lutel, Ronin Euros), you could very well be right |
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Post by sevicler on Feb 12, 2018 9:02:25 GMT
That depends on what kind of price point we're expecting for each blade. Sure, if they sell for the exact same price as these three short-swords they can be bestsellers. I don't think that will be the case. Even assuming they're higher, I think they will at least do better than the first three. But stranger things have happened. And given the plethora of options at this price point that are very attractive (HT, VA, Lutel, Ronin Euros), you could very well be right This I agree with. They probably will sell better than these 3 by virtue of being longer swords instead of short-swords. People in general rarely if ever grow interested in Short-swords, as I've mentioned in my earlier post |
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Post by stormmaster on Feb 12, 2018 9:10:18 GMT
Even assuming they're higher, I think they will at least do better than the first three. But stranger things have happened. And given the plethora of options at this price point that are very attractive (HT, VA, Lutel, Ronin Euros), you could very well be right This I agree with. They probably will sell better than these 3 by virtue of being longer swords instead of short-swords. People in general rarely if ever grow interested in Short-swords, as I've mentioned in my earlier post I agree, I find 3 of the 4 designs from the 1st round winners very interesting and am more excited to see those made into reality then 2 out of 3 of these bonus winner designs |
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Post by Razor on Feb 12, 2018 9:16:45 GMT
Razor but that somewhat assumes that it's a steady distribution of mass. With a tapered tang for instance, the mass below the POB might be the same as if the tang weren't tapered but the feel when held and moved is going to be very different. If you tapered the tang then the mass will go forward moving the POB up. If you have two of the same swords and the only thing different is one has a tapered tang, then that sword is going to have it's mass moved forward. If you take mass from any part of the sword you will change the POB, and the mass is going to be either closer to the hilt or further out. |
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Post by sevicler on Feb 12, 2018 9:19:33 GMT
This I agree with. They probably will sell better than these 3 by virtue of being longer swords instead of short-swords. People in general rarely if ever grow interested in Short-swords, as I've mentioned in my earlier post I agree, I find 3 of the 4 designs from the 1st round winners very interesting and am more excited to see those made into reality then 2 out of 3 of these bonus winner designs May I ask which of the 3 original winners you are interested in? Just to confirm my suspicions Note: the Black and White angel swords from Paul's original contest announcement thread will also be put up for sale. lemme see if I can find their image EDIT: Found them. Aren't these designs more like what you'd expect from a fantasy sword?  |
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Post by stormmaster on Feb 12, 2018 10:05:03 GMT
I agree, I find 3 of the 4 designs from the 1st round winners very interesting and am more excited to see those made into reality then 2 out of 3 of these bonus winner designs May I ask which of the 3 original winners you are interested in? Just to confirm my suspicions Note: the Black and White angel swords from Paul's original contest announcement thread will also be put up for sale. lemme see if I can find their image EDIT: Found them. Aren't these designs more like what you'd expect from a fantasy sword? cant say im all that interested in the gladius, i dont like those 2 cutouts on the top and bottom of the guard, just looks strange to me, other then that tho the design looks neat, now a completely black flamberge sword, now that is cool, hard to get a flamberge sword that is halfway decent nowadays so ill be keeping an eye on this one |
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Post by MOK on Feb 12, 2018 10:17:31 GMT
Razor but that somewhat assumes that it's a steady distribution of mass. With a tapered tang for instance, the mass below the POB might be the same as if the tang weren't tapered but the feel when held and moved is going to be very different. If you tapered the tang then the mass will go forward moving the POB up. Not necessarily! You could simply make the tang correspondingly thicker or wider overall, for instance.  The point being, a stick that tapers towards the ends and a stick that tapers towards the middle can have the exact same weight and point of balance, but will handle very differently. Weight and point of balance say very little on their own, or even together. On the other hand, most people simply don't have the frame of reference to visualize the effect of pivot points and angular momentum, so providing those doesn't help everybody, either. So IMO the best one can do is lots of photos, all the measurements possible and a good, detailed verbal description; no single detail or measurement is in itself enough to accurately convey or even reliably hint at the nature of the thing. |
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Post by sevicler on Feb 12, 2018 10:35:10 GMT
Just in case some of you are wondering how first 4 winning designs look like right now: The Modern Aelutian Gladius:  The Sword of Danu:  The Vorpal Sword:  The Castir:  So yeah, some of these swords are more finished than the others but all of them are not finished yet. Just thought I'd give an update to those who are interested in these designs. Plus, Paul never told me not to share these photos* and I assume the designers got constant updates from Paul on each of their designs. . Lemme know what you think of them. IMO I think BCI pulled off the Vorpal Sword and Castir designs flawlessly. They both look better than the sketches we drew up. *I have (limited) access to the website currently under construction. Paul invited me to help with the world-building. |
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