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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 5, 2018 23:13:30 GMT
Well this dead horse didn't need to be dredged up.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Apr 5, 2018 23:23:11 GMT
Nope *Pushes dead horse back into the tarpits*
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Post by thedarksider on Apr 5, 2018 23:23:26 GMT
Agree with Jordan. This Toxic thread needs to be left alone.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Apr 6, 2018 3:59:49 GMT
Well this dead horse didn't need to be dredged up. Exactly, this one has run it's course. And Coldnapalm if you're looking for an argument don't make the mistake of calling me out by name. If you took the time to read this thread you would have seen that it started over a false statement made by KOA not DSA. And if you're just trying to build up you posts fast try by coming up with something new not by kicking dead horses.
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Post by coldnapalm on Apr 6, 2018 4:35:39 GMT
Well this dead horse didn't need to be dredged up. Exactly, this one has run it's course. And Coldnapalm if you're looking for an argument don't make the mistake of calling me out by name. If you took the time to read this thread you would have seen that it started over a false statement made by KOA not DSA. And if you're just trying to build up you posts fast try by coming up with something new not by kicking dead horses. Why? You replied to this "dead" horse didn't you? If you honestly believed that, you should not have made any comments back to me. So obviously you don't think it's a dead horse now do you. And what part of anything I said in reply to you gave you the slightest idea that I care why this thread started? Do you realize that Eyal has specially said he doesn't use zinc alloy parts in his sword...right? So even if he lists those parts as just metal, if they are actually zinc alloy, than why yes DSA lied...and that is actually kind of what the OP was about anyways. Hell he even made claims that he doesn't cast anything...which their own damn video shows is a lie. I mean come on...if you are gonna lie, at least don't tell ones that your own promo videos contradict. My personal favorite was when I was actually defending DSA not making a copy of an Albion sword when he rants and admits another sword was a stolen design. Like OMG...the man just can not stop putting foot in mouth about his products. If he was truthful of what you got and charged accordingly, he would do a lot better. I suppose we should be glad he is such a terrible liar so we can see right through his marketing BS...and if anyone is stupid enough to fall for his rather obvious BS, buyer beware I suppose. Still I feel sorry for anyone who gets suckered in due to ignorance more than stupidity. I know a few people who got some DSA swords...and when they compare what you could have gotten for the price to what they got...yeah sadness ensues. Well for anyone interested in actual swords anyways (I will admit these are mostly the old beater ones with the 2mm edge...which I actually like for stage combat usage actually...but some of the newer ones are also disappointing...and at much more of a monetary loss). Oh and did you really try to argue from authority with your post count there? Yeah...funny little man. I don't judge what anyone says based on their post counts but by the merit of what they say. It's a nice attempt to try to use a fallacy to counter my arguments...but as far as actual content goes...not so much. But hey, if it really is a dead horse, it should be easy for you to just ignore this and move on...right?
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Post by elbrittania39 on Apr 6, 2018 4:38:47 GMT
*pours on more tar* *weights the horse with stones* Sink damn it! Sink!
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Post by zabazagobo on Apr 6, 2018 5:06:23 GMT
*pours on more tar* *weights the horse with stones* Sink damn it! Sink! Pouring tar? On a dead horse? Don't you know what you've done? ? You've created a nuckalavee! Spray it with your tapwater, quick!
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 6, 2018 5:19:05 GMT
i personally think dsa is overpriced for what you get but some people do get some good ones, i also have had a dsa piece that was fantastic, tho heavily modified by a cutler and not representative of what you could get from them, it all depends on whether you like the sword design enough to take the plunge, i think dsa has been making small steps to repair their reputation and if nothing else i've always heard they will give you a brand new sword if there is any issues with your current one
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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 6, 2018 5:55:13 GMT
i think dsa has been making small steps to repair their reputation and if nothing else i've always heard they will give you a brand new sword if there is any issues with your current one A lot of the ill will I had towards them was actually displaced by the recent attempts they've made, and their CS. But it'll still be a few years and more positive user reviews before I purchase one in confidence.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Apr 6, 2018 5:56:32 GMT
I realize that the topics contained in this thread are polarizing. I really do. In my time as a moderator, if there's one thing that I've learned, it's that DSA threads tend to be polarizing. I just...man, I realize it so, so much. That being said, everybody needs to try and keep things in perspective. Nobody needs to shots at or challenge anybody else. These things are against the rules. The actual issue that was the subject of the thread has been resolved, the rest has been gravy. If the thread is going to remain unlocked then people need to not start getting into each other(well, more than they already have). Thank you.
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 6, 2018 5:57:10 GMT
i think dsa has been making small steps to repair their reputation and if nothing else i've always heard they will give you a brand new sword if there is any issues with your current one A lot of the ill will I had towards them was actually displaced by the recent attempts they've made, and their CS. But it'll still be a few years and more positive user reviews before I purchase one in confidence. ditto that, my biggest issue is the problem with reselling them, even the piece i had which was fully modified originally sold for like 500, had a new grip, sharpening, blued fittings and the whole nine yards and still only barely sold for 400 then i think it sold again for like 350 or something like that, most of the dsa pieces i can find that i would buy 2nd hand are always like half off if they sell at all. like i could get a dsa witchking right now for 250 bucks
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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 6, 2018 6:14:15 GMT
A lot of the ill will I had towards them was actually displaced by the recent attempts they've made, and their CS. But it'll still be a few years and more positive user reviews before I purchase one in confidence. ditto that, my biggest issue is the problem with reselling them, even the piece i had which was fully modified originally sold for like 500, had a new grip, sharpening, blued fittings and the whole nine yards and still only barely sold for 400 then i think it sold again for like 350 or something like that, most of the dsa pieces i can find that i would buy 2nd hand are always like half off if they sell at all. like i could get a dsa witchking right now for 250 bucks That's another big reason I'm so hesitant to try one. While Cold Steel and Windlass have their haters, they're nowhere near as vocal or numerous/disrupting as DSA opposers, and the reputation they've gathered up on the seperate sword based forums really drives the value down. Don't even get me started on Facebook lol.
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Post by coldnapalm on Apr 6, 2018 6:26:10 GMT
A lot of the ill will I had towards them was actually displaced by the recent attempts they've made, and their CS. But it'll still be a few years and more positive user reviews before I purchase one in confidence. ditto that, my biggest issue is the problem with reselling them, even the piece i had which was fully modified originally sold for like 500, had a new grip, sharpening, blued fittings and the whole nine yards and still only barely sold for 400 then i think it sold again for like 350 or something like that, most of the dsa pieces i can find that i would buy 2nd hand are always like half off if they sell at all. like i could get a dsa witchking right now for 250 bucks Actually anything you spend a lot of money to modify and customize tends to lose a lot of value on resale. But yeah the second hand DSA market is really cheap. As far as their CS goes...last I heard is that if you personally sharpen it or even redo their bad sharpening job, it's a no go for a new sword if anything happens. The only way to have a warranty worth a damn is to buy from the SBG store and be under that warranty. But that was a couple of years ago from personal knowledge but have heard of of more hearsay reports of getting denied for such things even a few months ago. So even the reports of their reformed CS is of dubious value honestly.
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 6, 2018 8:26:11 GMT
ditto that, my biggest issue is the problem with reselling them, even the piece i had which was fully modified originally sold for like 500, had a new grip, sharpening, blued fittings and the whole nine yards and still only barely sold for 400 then i think it sold again for like 350 or something like that, most of the dsa pieces i can find that i would buy 2nd hand are always like half off if they sell at all. like i could get a dsa witchking right now for 250 bucks That's another big reason I'm so hesitant to try one. While Cold Steel and Windlass have their haters, they're nowhere near as vocal or numerous/disrupting as DSA opposers, and the reputation they've gathered up on the seperate sword based forums really drives the value down. Don't even get me started on Facebook lol. lol the moment I see someone asking if dsa is good on fb i nope the heck out of there before the flame wars and ban hammers come, it's even worst then mentioning Angel swords lol
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Apr 6, 2018 14:56:37 GMT
Exactly, this one has run it's course. And Coldnapalm if you're looking for an argument don't make the mistake of calling me out by name. If you took the time to read this thread you would have seen that it started over a false statement made by KOA not DSA. And if you're just trying to build up you posts fast try by coming up with something new not by kicking dead horses. Why? You replied to this "dead" horse didn't you? If you honestly believed that, you should not have made any comments back to me. So obviously you don't think it's a dead horse now do you. And what part of anything I said in reply to you gave you the slightest idea that I care why this thread started? Do you realize that Eyal has specially said he doesn't use zinc alloy parts in his sword...right? So even if he lists those parts as just metal, if they are actually zinc alloy, than why yes DSA lied...and that is actually kind of what the OP was about anyways. Hell he even made claims that he doesn't cast anything...which their own damn video shows is a lie. I mean come on...if you are gonna lie, at least don't tell ones that your own promo videos contradict. My personal favorite was when I was actually defending DSA not making a copy of an Albion sword when he rants and admits another sword was a stolen design. Like OMG...the man just can not stop putting foot in mouth about his products. If he was truthful of what you got and charged accordingly, he would do a lot better. I suppose we should be glad he is such a terrible liar so we can see right through his marketing BS...and if anyone is stupid enough to fall for his rather obvious BS, buyer beware I suppose. Still I feel sorry for anyone who gets suckered in due to ignorance more than stupidity. I know a few people who got some DSA swords...and when they compare what you could have gotten for the price to what they got...yeah sadness ensues. Well for anyone interested in actual swords anyways (I will admit these are mostly the old beater ones with the 2mm edge...which I actually like for stage combat usage actually...but some of the newer ones are also disappointing...and at much more of a monetary loss). Oh and did you really try to argue from authority with your post count there? Yeah...funny little man. I don't judge what anyone says based on their post counts but by the merit of what they say. It's a nice attempt to try to use a fallacy to counter my arguments...but as far as actual content goes...not so much. But hey, if it really is a dead horse, it should be easy for you to just ignore this and move on...right? It's kind of hard to ignore a thread when someone keeps calling you out by quoting you. Answer me this, how many DSA swords do you own? So far all I'm hearing from you is, I heard, he said, I was told, I read.. I own four DSA swords and one dagger and have no issues with any of them. They ranged in price from $250 up to $750 and I would rate them from okay to excellent according to the price range. So why should I change my mind about their swords because of your hearsays ? I'm talking from experience not hearsays.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 22:09:27 GMT
Gunnar, you are talking straight from their paylist; i am convinced of that by now. I still hope you will learn someday; not through some of their crap breaking and hurting you, but through reason. I for my part will stay away for a while, and hang around on Myarmoury a bit... i am fed up to the gills discussing that DSA crap, so see yourself as a winner, if you like. A lot of sword snobs on Myarmoury, true, but at least they know the place where DSA belongs. See you all around.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 6, 2018 22:18:40 GMT
.. until the next Star Wars Solo thread ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 22:39:40 GMT
.. until the next Star Wars Solo thread ... This is just for you, Bavarian: No, sorry, no more discussions here. Will miss you and some of the guys, but some others make me wish to spend my remaining money and lifetime jumping over the great pond and discuss some things face to face... i am ill, i grew older, but i sure as hell aint no coward. See you.
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Post by stormmaster on Apr 6, 2018 22:40:25 GMT
.. until the next Star Wars Solo thread ... I'm actually hoping that movie will be good but I am tempering my expectations, now the obiwan movie tho better blow me away
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 6, 2018 23:01:56 GMT
After Rogue One I think the "out of line" films are much better!
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