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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 25, 2018 16:33:06 GMT
2" is really wide for a tang, a 1 1/2" grip will never fit! I don't get it, please get Gunnar to explain again? I have one thing to say to you Raylon,   |
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 25, 2018 16:42:35 GMT
it seems a shame that koa cancelled the order. if the sword did indeed turn out flawed it would be dsa getting the blame anyway, not koa. It wasn't a question of flaws it was about the fitting being made of steel or not. DSA didn't say they were made of steel KOA did. So it was a mistake by KOA not a lie by DSA. Just checked the ad and KOA corrected their mistake and is now calling it " metal ". Now Holg is going to be wondering, is it really metal or is it plastic. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 20:32:29 GMT
One could think that Gunnar is an avatar of Eyal...
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Post by christain on Jan 25, 2018 21:09:00 GMT
Any way it goes, I'm glad you didn't buy that piece of crap. No use in spending good money on something to hang on the wall that is DAMAGED GOODS in the first place. The thing OBVIOUSLY has a micro-tang and would probably not last through a single 2-liter bottle cut. I'm glad you crawfished on this one. And KOA WILL slip you a mickey if you don't watch 'em. I bought a GDFB sugar-loaf great helm from them once....the thing came with the brass cross tarnished nearly BLACK, and a huge dent in the dome. I sent it back, and got a refund. Not knocking KOA...I love 'em...but they are not without faults.  |
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Post by stormmaster on Jan 25, 2018 22:10:13 GMT
while it would of been nice to see the tang, i understand the skepticism, guess even koa can be wrong sometimes
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Post by christain on Jan 25, 2018 22:58:03 GMT
I actually DID receive a few photos of the tang of a Deepeeka Zweihander from KOA a few months ago. It thought it rather nice of them to send me such. I didn't buy it...because it looked pretty piss-poor, ...but I did thank them for the effort. KOA is a straight-up place to order, but READ REVIEWS before you buy ANYTHING. |
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 25, 2018 23:37:00 GMT
One could think that Gunnar is an avatar of Eyal... Nah, I just like to balance things out so they're not all one sided. Otherwise it's like having one kid on a teeter totter (seesaw) not much happens.  |
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 25, 2018 23:45:57 GMT
HEY, do you think Eyal might give me a free sword out of this ? Nah I didn't think so either.  But just in case, I was looking at the Warmonger, it would go so nice with my Eindride. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 5:34:44 GMT
HEY, do you think Eyal might give me a free sword out of this ? :) Nah I didn't think so either. :( But just in case, I was looking at the Warmonger, it would go so nice with my Eindride. :) I think your eyes are gonna get open as soon as these things start to fail in greater numbers. Eventually, with people being kinda afraid and unsure about the DSA stuff they bought... they might not cut very often? So... small number of failure issues? I sure hope it will only take a window, a windshield or something like that when it comes to fatal failures - not people nor animals. But sooner or later we here will get this kind of news. I am 51 years of age, my general health status by now suggests i wont be around for sooo much longer - but yes, i AM on a crusade, and if i find a way to do it from here in europe, on a legal way, it may be one of my goals to use a part of my money to strip DSA off their emperors old clothes. Maybe at one point i gonna say "ah, fragg you, buy what you want, its none of my business!"... But i am still highly motivated for the time being... just as much as you chose to be their defender. |
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Post by elbrittania39 on Jan 26, 2018 6:04:14 GMT
HEY, do you think Eyal might give me a free sword out of this ? Nah I didn't think so either. But just in case, I was looking at the Warmonger, it would go so nice with my Eindride. I think your eyes are gonna get open as soon as these things start to fail in greater numbers. Eventually, with people being kinda afraid and unsure about the DSA stuff they bought... they might not cut very often? So... small number of failure issues? I sure hope it will only take a window, a windshield or something like that when it comes to fatal failures - not people nor animals. But sooner or later we here will get this kind of news. I am 51 years of age, my general health status by now suggests i wont be around for sooo much longer - but yes, i AM on a crusade, and if i find a way to do it from here in europe, on a legal way, it may be one of my goals to use a part of my money to strip DSA off their emperors old clothes. Maybe at one point i gonna say "ah, fragg you, buy what you want, its none of my business!"... But i am still highly motivated for the time being... just as much as you chose to be their defender. Holg, you seem like a real nice guy but you still dont seem to get it. DSA making bad swords, is not the same as DSA lying about what their swords are made out of. You initially accused them of lying, but myself and several others pointed out the misinformation only existed on the KOA pre-owned listing, and no where else. Both the DSA and KoA new listings went out of their way to be vague about the fitting materials and to not say they were steel. Now if we want to talk about whether or not DSA swords are good or over priced or whatever, thats a whole different topic. Edit: Also, this is research you probably should have done yourself before you made your accusation. If you dislike DSA, and want to prove they're shady, you cant selectively pick information that supports your argument, and then ignore/avoid other information that doesn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 6:18:14 GMT
I think your eyes are gonna get open as soon as these things start to fail in greater numbers. Eventually, with people being kinda afraid and unsure about the DSA stuff they bought... they might not cut very often? So... small number of failure issues? I sure hope it will only take a window, a windshield or something like that when it comes to fatal failures - not people nor animals. But sooner or later we here will get this kind of news. I am 51 years of age, my general health status by now suggests i wont be around for sooo much longer - but yes, i AM on a crusade, and if i find a way to do it from here in europe, on a legal way, it may be one of my goals to use a part of my money to strip DSA off their emperors old clothes. Maybe at one point i gonna say "ah, fragg you, buy what you want, its none of my business!"... But i am still highly motivated for the time being... just as much as you chose to be their defender. Holg, you seem like a real nice guy but you still dont seem to get it. DSA making bad swords, is not the same as DSA lying about what their swords are made out of. You initially accused them of lying, but myself and several others pointed out the misinformation only existed on the KOA pre-owned listing, and no where else. Both the DSA and KoA new listings went out of their way to be vague about the fitting materials and to not say they were steel. Now if we want to talk about whether or not DSA swords are good or over priced or whatever, thats a whole different topic. DSA says their swords are peened; theyre not (obvious for anybody who knows peens to see the difference!). DSA says their swords are handforged in Canada; theyre not (proof is in here somewhere; freight papers from india with specific names). DSA said earlier, the fittings on some of their models were steel; they werent. Please do your homework before lecturing me. And no, i am not a nice guy when it comes to DSA. |
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Post by elbrittania39 on Jan 26, 2018 6:23:45 GMT
Holg, you seem like a real nice guy but you still dont seem to get it. DSA making bad swords, is not the same as DSA lying about what their swords are made out of. You initially accused them of lying, but myself and several others pointed out the misinformation only existed on the KOA pre-owned listing, and no where else. Both the DSA and KoA new listings went out of their way to be vague about the fitting materials and to not say they were steel. Now if we want to talk about whether or not DSA swords are good or over priced or whatever, thats a whole different topic. DSA says their swords are peened; theyre not (obvious for anybody who knows peens to see the difference!). DSA says their swords are handforged in Canada; theyre not (proof is in here somewhere; freight papers from india with specific names). DSA said earlier, the fittings on some of their models were steel; they werent. Please do your homework before lecturing me. And no, i am not a nice guy when it comes to DSA. Again Holg, you're missing my point. All of those points you just raised are fresh accusations. The topic at hand was as follows: Did DSA lie about what their Witch King fittings were made out of? The answer was no. But you seem to just keep raising new points rather than addressing the evidence that contradicts your initial claim. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 6:52:42 GMT
THOSE ARE NOT "NEW" POINTS, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! THIS WHOLE STORY IS RUNNING FOR YEARS AFTER YEARS!NOW LEAVE ME ALONE!
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Post by stormmaster on Jan 26, 2018 9:15:27 GMT
While dsa has not lied about the witchking fittings all the rest of the stuff holg has listed have been issues known for a while now, I have heard they are actually peening their new swords now tho, but until I see legit proof it's just hearsay for me
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 26, 2018 16:09:41 GMT
Sorry to hear about your health problems Holg, staying fit and healthy has always been a priority of mine and at 66 so far so good. Of my four DSA swords two are peened, the one's that are not is my oldest one and my last one which is their HEMA Viking sword. But they said they were not peened. As for the list of swords shipped from India that was explained. A company over there was making knock offs of DSA swords so DSA took them to court and part of the court order was they had to turn those swords over to DSA. Now whether DSA destroyed them or sold them I don't know, but neither do you. If your days are short you really should be using them for more important things than this. Enjoy the time. And for the people who keep saying show us the tangs, here's the only one I can show you. Looks pretty hefty to me. One piece no welded on threaded section.  |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 26, 2018 16:36:49 GMT
This tang looks well but is nowhere near 2" wide!
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 26, 2018 17:13:47 GMT
Actually it is 2 inches wide, the blade is 5 inch wide. |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 26, 2018 18:19:48 GMT
Did these specs come from DSA?
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 26, 2018 18:35:37 GMT
No, they lied and said they were smaller. They were probably afraid only big muscular men would buy them. Like me. |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 26, 2018 18:37:12 GMT
(Gulp) cool!
(DSA threads always end with threats or contumelious language!)
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But just in case, I was looking at the Warmonger, it would go so nice with my Eindride. 
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