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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 19:01:32 GMT
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Post by christain on Jan 23, 2018 19:05:46 GMT
Yep....looks like some kind of pot-metal to me.  |
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Post by strigoil on Jan 23, 2018 19:06:20 GMT
That looks like some sturdy steel right there, could probably deflect a lightsaber!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 19:13:55 GMT
Gonna find out (again) how honest this company is...
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Post by stormmaster on Jan 23, 2018 19:18:06 GMT
good luck dude, i actually like the witchking out of all the dsa swords, it looks the best, not this one tho, but the old one with the movie accurate ricasso
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Post by elbrittania39 on Jan 23, 2018 19:20:42 GMT
DSA sloppiness wouldnt bother me if the prices were way lower. When you buy a $200 sword, you expect some corners to be cut. When you buy a $700 sword, you expect something pretty damn refined.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 19:58:00 GMT
good luck dude, i actually like the witchking out of all the dsa swords, it looks the best, not this one tho, but the old one with the movie accurate ricasso I dont care about the sword... its only a cheaper try; it will be ripped apart for checking out. This is one of their "newer, better models"... we will see. And when the redults will be the ones i expect, i would like to have some answers... from KOA, from DSA, and... yeah. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 20:00:34 GMT
DSA sloppiness wouldnt bother me if the prices were way lower. When you buy a $200 sword, you expect some corners to be cut. When you buy a $700 sword, you expect something pretty damn refined. This is not about sloppyness, its about lying. That fittings are obviously some kind of weak aluminium or pot metal. And its only an addition to an evergrowing list of issues. Everybody in the sword world has to realize what kind of businessmen they are. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 20:06:51 GMT
Done. I gonna get you... Attachments:
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Post by elbrittania39 on Jan 23, 2018 20:10:17 GMT
DSA sloppiness wouldnt bother me if the prices were way lower. When you buy a $200 sword, you expect some corners to be cut. When you buy a $700 sword, you expect something pretty damn refined. This is not about sloppyness, its about lying. That fittings are obviously some kind of weak aluminium or pot metal. And its only an addition to an evergrowing list of issues. Everybody in the sword world has to realize what kind of businessmen they are. Fair enough, ethics and honesty are imperative. Interestingly enough, the KOA page for the sword new describes it as having a "metal cross guard, central grip, and pommel." It specifys that the chape on the scabbard is steel, but is vague on the material for the rest. From what I can tell, that makes sense cause the chape does look like steel. Furthermore, on DSA's home website, there is no mention at all of what any of the metal is besides that of the blade. Taking all this into account, I'd be careful to jump to the conclusion that anyone is intentionally lying or misrepresenting the product. The page for the pre-owned sword may just have had a hastily typed mistake. I'm not defending anyone or saying your concerns arent valid, but these are things to consider before you make any real accusations. |
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Post by Deepbluedave on Jan 23, 2018 20:59:04 GMT
I have one of those Damascus DSA Witch-king swords from a few years ago, was thinking of selling it or maybe taking the fitting off and rehilting it as the blade is great, the fittings are crap and definitely not steel.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 24, 2018 15:35:46 GMT
Well Holg it's good to see you're going into this project with an open mind.  |
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Post by einkidu on Jan 24, 2018 16:26:13 GMT
I have one of those Damascus DSA Witch-king swords from a few years ago, was thinking of selling it or maybe taking the fitting off and rehilting it as the blade is great, the fittings are crap and definitely not steel. And i have the other one ( I think there were 2 made ). Same thing here, definitly not steel it has been obviously cast and doesnt rust. |
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 24, 2018 17:32:59 GMT
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 24, 2018 17:38:53 GMT
In the koa site for this special pre owned sword they wrote it, but it looks like this is a mistake only there.
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Post by einkidu on Jan 24, 2018 17:39:31 GMT
The crossguard, central grip and pommel of the hilt are of steel with embossed thorn-like design. The grip is of wood and is overlaid with black leather.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 24, 2018 18:31:41 GMT
Well then I guess that makes it KOA mistake not DSA lie, doesn't it ?
Now before we get to the tang, the blade is 2 inched wide at the guard and we can all see that the grip is smaller then the blade so lets not expect a 2 inch wide tang under that grip. So unless the tang is welded to the blade probably nothing to be found there. Hope you like the sword Holg.
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Post by elbrittania39 on Jan 24, 2018 19:00:06 GMT
Well then I guess that makes it KOA mistake not DSA lie, doesn't it ? Now before we get to the tang, the blade is 2 inched wide at the guard and we can all see that the grip is smaller then the blade so lets not expect a 2 inch wide tang under that grip. So unless the tang is welded to the blade probably nothing to be found there. Hope you like the sword Holg. Im with Gunnar here. I trust KOA. They provide excellent customer service so I'm more than willing to believe that was a mistake on the preown page. Furthermore, while DSA swords are pretty poor quality, that doesn't automatically make them liars. Especially when the product description doesn't seem to contain any lies. If anything their comment about how difficult it was to create the correct pommel shape could be implying they couldn't do it right with steel. Also, new point: If they were cutting corners and lying, would a different type of metal than mild steel save them any real money? Would it really be worth lying to consumers to save like, $5 of materials on a $500 sword? That doesn't make any sense. |
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 24, 2018 19:21:33 GMT
I have four DSA swords, while one was from way back when their swords were selling in the Two hundred + range it was no less quality then a windlass. My last three from them have no problems with quality at all and my Eindride I think is a work of art. Been looking at their Warmonger and expecting nothing less of it. I've noticed that when some companies send out a bad sword then make good on it all is forgiven and forgotten but if it's DSA it's call out the lynching party. We have to hold ALL companies to the same standards for their price range.
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Post by christain on Jan 24, 2018 19:37:54 GMT
I'll stick to Hanwei and Windlass. DSA is way overpriced for what they are, imho. At least I KNOW what I'm getting with those brands, and not making a crapshoot on a 'maybe--maybe not' sword. Until this whole Q.C. issue is resolved once and for all, DSA is off my list...sorry. |
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