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Post by salanizi on Jan 20, 2018 7:10:07 GMT
Hello,
I have recently been fascinated by the 1896 pattern Cavalry Saber. Would love to know more about it.
As I understood it is the same 1821 HC saber and it has survived for officers up to 1908, however only troopers got the subsequent replacements of 1853/1864/1880/1882/1885/1890/1899 - is that correct?
Also, any stats (weight/POB/length/width)? Seems to be narrower in the blade than the original 1821 HC.
Cheers!
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Post by Afoo on Jan 20, 2018 15:04:57 GMT
You mean something like this? Not entirely sure of the story, but it seems to be a fascinating weapon. See if any of the older hands know anything more
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Post by victoriansword on Jan 20, 2018 15:41:33 GMT
You've got it. The 1896 is basically the 1821 HC Officer's Sword. And while the troopers went though many patterns from 1821-1908, HC officers had only one pattern (with the exception of regimental patterns and non-regulation swords). Some cavalry officers opted to buy and use the 1896 after the 1912 became the regulation pattern. This wasn't something that continued after WWI, but it is still interesting that some officers preferred a more versatile cut and thrust sword over the thrust-centric 1912.
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Post by salanizi on Jan 21, 2018 15:54:30 GMT
Hello,
Yes indeed that is the saber I am talking about, would like to know more about it and specs if anyone has one.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jan 21, 2018 20:16:07 GMT
I don't think that the specs were very detailed. For the HC version, the spec length varied (35.5" from about 1857 to 1875. 36" otherwise). Swords that I've seen measurements for are usually 1 1/8" or 1 1/4" wide. According to Robson, "Swords of the British Army", they're usually 35" long. (Robson covers the HC officer's sword, and has a very brief discussion of the 1896, noting that some writers incorrectly note that a new universal cavalry officer's pattern was introduced in 1896 - as Robson writes, it was just the light cavalry adopting the same sword that the heavy cavalry officer's were already using).
Basically, the honeysuckle hilt on a long cut-and-thrust blade. The blades appear to be thinner and lighter than those of trooper's swords - the officer's blades are longer, but the swords are often lighter.
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Post by warriorsoc on Mar 21, 2021 21:38:27 GMT
*Cough* FYI: I just listed my new/unused Castille Armory custom SHARP British 1896/1889 sabre in the marketplace. Attachments:
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