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Post by antoine99 on Dec 20, 2017 21:05:53 GMT
Hey everyone This might sound like a silly question, but say for example a legionary is separated from his shield during battle when s*** goes down, and now he only has his gladius, and nothing in the other hand, would it be smart to use two hands on the gladius? Or whatever situation arises where you only have your gladius and that's it. I tried and it feels very wrong because of the handle only being big enough for one hand, so I have to basically double-up my hand ontop of the other hand. When I use my gladius I keep my other arm behind my back for safety. Also, back to normal one-handed use, am I supposed to have my thumb up on the guard (not the blade) for stability? It seems like I have more control that way, as opposed to basically making a fist around the handle. Thanks!
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Post by antoine99 on Dec 20, 2017 22:00:37 GMT
Imo, both the hilt and the blade of a gladius are too short to let the off-hand be of use on the weapon. I’d keep it in front in confined spaces and at the back hip in the open, to free the body for powerful motions. I’d keep a closed fist with a gladius and definitely keep my fingers behind the guard, to not get them crushed on my own shield edge (if you have a shield). Check out Meyer's dussack section, perhaps there's something you can adapt for use without a shield... Here's a link for the start (scroll down for dussack): wiktenauer.com/wiki/Joachim_MeyerOh very nice, thanks!
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Post by bebut on Dec 20, 2017 22:10:36 GMT
Glads and qamas are designed for hammer grip with your hand locked into position by the design of the sword. Not much room or reason to go 2 handed. If I were in the position I think I would look for a big stick or something for the off hand.
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Post by christain on Dec 20, 2017 22:12:05 GMT
I agree with the above. I've done a ton of cutting with my Cold Steel Gladius machete, and a two-handed grip is very awkward feeling. The pommel is just too big and the grip too short. A Gladius always has, and always will be, a single-hander. A two-handed Romanesque spathe-type sword is an interesting concept though. Hmmmmm.......
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Post by antoine99 on Dec 21, 2017 1:22:00 GMT
I agree with the above. I've done a ton of cutting with my Cold Steel Gladius machete, and a two-handed grip is very awkward feeling. The pommel is just too big and the grip too short. A Gladius always has, and always will be, a single-hander. A two-handed Romanesque spathe-type sword is an interesting concept though. Hmmmmm....... So if you unscrewed the pommel...You could use that in your off hand...? To do something...With? Like... Ending someone...? In a particular way? But yes the pommel is quite enormous.
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Post by Verity on Dec 21, 2017 3:09:00 GMT
I agree with the above. I've done a ton of cutting with my Cold Steel Gladius machete, and a two-handed grip is very awkward feeling. The pommel is just too big and the grip too short. A Gladius always has, and always will be, a single-hander. A two-handed Romanesque spathe-type sword is an interesting concept though. Hmmmmm....... So if you unscrewed the pommel...You could use that in your off hand...? To do something...With? Like... Ending someone...? In a particular way? But yes the pommel is quite enormous. rightly perhaps? You might be on to something 😂
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Post by Verity on Dec 21, 2017 3:14:46 GMT
So if you unscrewed the pommel...You could use that in your off hand...? To do something...With? Like... Ending someone...? In a particular way? But yes the pommel is quite enormous. rightly perhaps? You might be on to something 😂 best idea for a sword ever. Have a custom peen block that holds the grip together but a Quick Detach pommel or bottom half of pommel. Name the sword “righteous end” bwhahahaha 😂
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Post by Ifrit on Dec 21, 2017 4:07:34 GMT
I read before that sometimes people who had a one handed sword would wrap their off hand around the sword hand to emulate a two hand grip
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Post by antoine99 on Dec 21, 2017 4:52:32 GMT
rightly perhaps? You might be on to something 😂 best idea for a sword ever. Have a custom peen block that holds the grip together but a Quick Detach pommel or bottom half of pommel. Name the sword “righteous end” bwhahahaha 😂 If you think about it, bullets are just mini pommels. @djinobi: You mean like I described the way I tried it, just wrapping one hand around handle and your other hand over that? It was indeed pretty awkward feeling, does it really give you any advantages?
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Post by Ifrit on Dec 21, 2017 5:25:32 GMT
I am not sure, but apparently it was done historically.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Dec 21, 2017 5:41:19 GMT
My Gen2 Maintz has a very long handle, I can use it two handed. Not bad if you want to try out some Liechtenauer guards in an appartment with a low ceiling. And don't forget: With a gladius you always bind with the forte! Joking aside: Two handed use costs extra reach and usually there is no need for the additional power.
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