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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 1:45:01 GMT
I was thinking perhaps alder?
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Post by pgandy on Nov 2, 2017 2:40:09 GMT
Depending on what you mean by “ever so slightly tighten...” I’ve used cellophane tape on the habaki. A layer on one or both sides has done it for me. I think that I’ve used two layers on both sides once. It’s a quick and dirty patch but works and is hardly noticeable. I’ve heard of people gluing a paper shim in the saya’s throat. I’ve received thin veneer wood in model building kits and have seen this for sale in thin sheets online from a few model supply houses. It’s hard to find as people today prefer plastic and other synthetic materials these days. I lucked out and received some that I still have in a maintenance kit years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 7:54:02 GMT
Depending on what you mean by “ever so slightly tighten...” I’ve used cellophane tape on the habaki. A layer on one or both sides has done it for me. I think that I’ve used two layers on both sides once. It’s a quick and dirty patch but works and is hardly noticeable. I’ve heard of people gluing a paper shim in the saya’s throat. I’ve received thin veneer wood in model building kits and have seen this for sale in thin sheets online from a few model supply houses. It’s hard to find as people today prefer plastic and other synthetic materials these days. I lucked out and received some that I still have in a maintenance kit years ago. Well, pgandy has already pointed out some excellent and common methods that are time proved and very widely used. And considering his experience over mine, I do not feel the need to jump out about such methods. However, since he mentioned some of the modern alternatives, I can speak about getting an elastomer. Shouldn’t be difficult. Search on the web and you would probably find some hardware store with some left over pieces. Even better, try going through industrial ‘stow away’ zones on the net and you could probably pick a ton of VERY expensive materials for like 5-6 dollars.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 7:56:54 GMT
Goodfellow tends to be very helpful.
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Post by Ifrit on Nov 6, 2017 6:37:31 GMT
I just glued paper inside the saya, and placed in the sword so it would add pressure. Works pretty good and is easy to do
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Post by pgandy on Nov 6, 2017 23:33:58 GMT
Glad to hear the paper is working. It's cheap and readily available. Just a wild thought, you might try coating the paper shim to lengthen its life.
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Post by RaylonTheDemented on Nov 16, 2017 12:50:31 GMT
I used this method myself: Linky
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Post by Cottontail Customs on Nov 19, 2017 2:43:04 GMT
I've been using very thin sheets of kyogi wood, also referred to as "wooden paper", used for Japanese floral arrangements. it allows me to add very little thickness at a time which means less filing/adjusting. a little bit will last a very long time and is also great for shimming other loose areas. adheres well with wood glue or white glue
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 3:02:06 GMT
I've been using very thin sheets of kyogi wood, also referred to as "wooden paper"... That is exactly what I’ve been looking for. Do you know of a reliable source?
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Post by steves87 on Sept 14, 2018 5:31:35 GMT
Through many swords over the years wearing the saya koiguchi, due to my less than perfect drawing techniques, I have found a very quick and non harsh packing to be a tiny square or strip of thin leather. with light gluing, ensuring the glue does not penetrate fully through the leather, it makes a nice soft, but tight seating for the habaki. I could be wrong, but it seems like this reduces marking on the habaki and may last longer than the original saya wood, due to its more malleable properties.
Apologies for bringing the thread up from months ago.
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Post by ryuto on Dec 28, 2018 22:24:51 GMT
I’ve used nail hardener for many years-Sally Hansen Diamond strength! Just brush it inside the koiguchi as far as the brush allows along the mune and ha edges of the saya. Allow to dry overnight before testing the snugness of the fit (if you stick your sword in while it’s wet, you'll never get you sword out again!). Build it up until the sword doesn’t fall out under gravity. It’s really easy and the only requires touching up once a year or so. Honestly it really works brilliantly. The only issue is having to go into the cosmetics section of Boots and asking for Sally Hansen Diamond Strength Nail Hardener! I recommend using a deep voice and saying it’s for your ‘her indoors’!
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Post by zsg1313 on Sept 4, 2021 23:26:12 GMT
Reviving this to see if someone has a source for the kyogi sheets?
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Post by Cottontail Customs on Sept 12, 2021 21:50:29 GMT
Reviving this to see if someone has a source for the kyogi sheets? You can find these sheets in many places, including etsy, just google kyogi or wood paper or paper wood or a combo of these terms. Here is a place I've purchased from before and they offer two different thicknesses. It may not be preferable to everyone depending on your location or method of payment, etc.
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Post by zsg1313 on Sept 13, 2021 0:37:39 GMT
Reviving this to see if someone has a source for the kyogi sheets? You can find these sheets in many places, including etsy, just google kyogi or wood paper or paper wood or a combo of these terms. Here is a place I've purchased from before and they offer two different thicknesses. It may not be preferable to everyone depending on your location or method of payment, etc. Thanks! I tried leather but too thick.
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Post by pgandy on Sept 13, 2021 12:58:08 GMT
I am by no means knocking kyogi. For me by the time I imported some the price would be considerably more than the vendor’s asking price, not to mention the time involved. Within the last couple of weeks I shimmed a scabbard using materials on hand, a tongue depressor and copy paper. Copy paper is about .0035” thick and I used 4 ply. All held in place with white glue.
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