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Post by Cosmoline on Oct 27, 2017 17:00:04 GMT
You mean European swords? I don't know much about Chinese sword and board systems. Ms. I.33 is the earliest European treatise and is buckler based. There's nothing surviving on large medieval shields, so the reconstructions are speculative. But still a lot of fun. There are some later buckler systems from Italy and a smattering from Germany/HRE as well and some very late period Spanish shield. Hard to say how much of that draws from medieval sources though. Interesting, I had the misconception that bucklers were less utilized than they seem to be. Guess it shows I need to read up more on European warfare, I've spent a lot of time focusing on the east, somewhat disproportionately so. I'll look into sword and buckler for the time being since there's more information available on the subject. Ms. I.33 is famously cryptic. It's the oldest of the intact sources and mixes Latin and German in the text with illustrations that don't always seem to line up with the descriptions. But we've found our way through it. The Bolognese (Italian renaissance) s&b is easier to understand and better illustrated, but also comes from a later era where hilts were getting more complex. This means it relies less on the working of sword and buckler together and more on the sweeping movements of a protected-hilt side sword. We don't have any text showing arming sword alone, but the langes messer texts are pretty informative and you can use a medieval arming sword for about 90% of the moves without losing fingers.
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Post by howler on Oct 28, 2017 5:24:09 GMT
Sabre and Pistol mounted on a horse Wish I could practice that here though haha. But in terms of actual fencing, I'd have to go with Espada y Daga (Short sword and Dagger). Or even just one Sansibar if I were as good as my FMA instructor: www.facebook.com/kalahiblades/videos/858197914247332/What a human buzz saw. Only hope (aside from a firearm or ballistic weapon) would be a long range item (the longer the better) and an attempt at somehow keeping distance while waiting for an opportunity. Rapier and dagger or billhook/spear would be good, and if you allowed shields, the whole game would change. Fighting that dude with an equal sized sword would be suicide, or if you won, you would wish you were dead.
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Post by zabazagobo on Oct 28, 2017 23:21:37 GMT
I took a Cold Steel Trench Hawk trainer and cut the axe blade off, leaving the handle and the back spike, which made the sickle. Then I used a length of paracord for the chain. For the weight I made a monkey's fist knot around a tennis ball. The tennis ball by itself would have probably worked, but it was a little light for my taste. The knot made the tennis ball fairly hard though, to the point that it really hurts getting hit by it (if you aren't wearing armor). Neat ideas, thanks for sharing.
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Post by zabazagobo on Oct 28, 2017 23:27:39 GMT
Interesting, I had the misconception that bucklers were less utilized than they seem to be. Guess it shows I need to read up more on European warfare, I've spent a lot of time focusing on the east, somewhat disproportionately so. I'll look into sword and buckler for the time being since there's more information available on the subject. Ms. I.33 is famously cryptic. It's the oldest of the intact sources and mixes Latin and German in the text with illustrations that don't always seem to line up with the descriptions. But we've found our way through it. The Bolognese (Italian renaissance) s&b is easier to understand and better illustrated, but also comes from a later era where hilts were getting more complex. This means it relies less on the working of sword and buckler together and more on the sweeping movements of a protected-hilt side sword. We don't have any text showing arming sword alone, but the langes messer texts are pretty informative and you can use a medieval arming sword for about 90% of the moves without losing fingers. Kind of sounds like the Ms. I.33 is similar to how a newer translation of Yamamoto Kansuke's primer on tactics turned out; great information, but haphazardly organized and edited so some material is a bit abstruse. I might just look into the Bolognese s&b (is that the full title?), since I'm getting more and more into rapiers and cut n thrust renaissance blades already this could be a great way to 'merge' a study of rapier & dagger with rapier (or something similar) and buckler. Thanks for your comments, definitely helps orient me as to where to look for more information.
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Post by Cosmoline on Oct 29, 2017 1:35:25 GMT
Bolognese is great stuff. S&B is just one part of it. It's well documented with excellent illustrations. I haven't studied it much beyond a few sample classes, but I've fought folks from that background and they're really good. The school seems to straddle the time between medieval and early modern. They will use the longpoint, but also know how to make excellent sweeping cuts. Overall I think our I.33 is superior for buckler use, but their swordplay is superior. And Bolognese uses less wrestling than messer from what I've seen. Possibly because they blades are longer. I can usually beat the guys if I can get in close and use the aggressive I.33 buckler work to control the space, but at longer measure I tend to get chewed up all to hell.
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Post by Ifrit on Nov 6, 2017 21:13:21 GMT
After seeing Blood & Iron's video on Halberd, I suddenly found a new love of mine. Looks like a fantastic weapon
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Post by Ifrit on Nov 6, 2017 21:30:01 GMT
After seeing Blood & Iron's video on Halberd, I suddenly found a new love of mine. Looks like a fantastic weapon It is! Very versatile and powerful in all ranges. Those guys at Blood & Iron did a great job demonstrating. Over centuries, halberds came at all shapes and weights. Have you seen Roger Norling`s stuff? I don't think I have. Is he a recent blacksmith?
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Post by Ifrit on Nov 6, 2017 21:48:36 GMT
I don't think I have. Is he a recent blacksmith? Don`t know `bout all he does. He`s the polearm instructor at the Gothenburg Free Fencers Guild, has been teaching seminars around the world. Leading expert on western polearm techniques, imo. He runs the awesome website HROARR. Also a bushcrafter as well as a literate intellectual, check out his website wateronarock.com/Has some great vids on body mechanics with the quarterstaff, on youtube. Awesome guy, and I have great respect for him. Thanks for a heads up! I will be sure to check out what is available online
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Post by koutlosh on Oct 13, 2018 21:49:03 GMT
After seeing Blood & Iron's video on Halberd, I suddenly found a new love of mine. Looks like a fantastic weapon There is another short but very nice presentation of halberd techniques here in this video from gladiatores.de Did you see it before?
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