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Post by LeMal on Sept 26, 2017 7:13:14 GMT
kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=POSH2365&name=Pre-Owned+Hanwei+Hand+and+a+Half+SwordNot an actual project I'll attempt. (Got too many on the back burner already.) But it seems to me that if an industrious soul picked up this old style Hanwei and remounted it, with much of the heavy bronze hilt parts instead done in carved wood with an overlay of gold leaf, one might have a Conan Atlantean of an actually serviceable weight and handling. Just a thought. (Which I'd selfishly love to see.)
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Post by stormmaster on Sept 26, 2017 17:23:50 GMT
carved wood will never look as noice as bronze
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Post by LeMal on Sept 26, 2017 21:29:59 GMT
Of course not. But then it won't give you an eight-pound unuseable monstrosity either.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Sept 26, 2017 21:44:20 GMT
I always thought that an Atlantean in the 3lb range can only be made with wood. If you make the crossguard sandwitched like a messer grip it could be tough too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 23:14:00 GMT
Using titanium instead of bronze would get the weight down... though it would probably be cheaper to hire someone to carry the Atlantean for you.
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Post by chrisperoni on Sept 27, 2017 3:33:51 GMT
But the blade doesnt have the same profile at all
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Post by Scott on Sept 27, 2017 3:45:11 GMT
Possibly a dumb question, but why not make the bronze castings hollow? Would still look good but save a lot of weight.
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Post by LeMal on Sept 27, 2017 5:55:10 GMT
But the blade doesnt have the same profile at all Really? "(A)t all?" Both fullered over the whole length. Hanwei is 38'' overall, thickness: 5.7 mm - 3.8 mm, width: 43.4 mm; Windlass Atlantean is 40'' overall, 4.5 mm - 3.6 mm, width: 57.3 mm In brief, the Hanwei is narrower, and even though thicker at the base doesn't have a massive ricasso; basically a not-insignificant amount narrower. No, not an exact same profile. But--ahem--if you had the exact same profile--you'd have the same weight! About as close as one can get. Close enough.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Sept 27, 2017 9:44:36 GMT
The Windlass Atlantean bare blade isn't extremely heavy, "only" 1125 g.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 27, 2017 16:51:19 GMT
The Windlass Atlantean bare blade isn't extremely heavy, "only" 1125 g. That blade alone weighs more than some full size cavalry sabres, woah.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Sept 27, 2017 17:04:15 GMT
Yeah, it's a mighty big blade, but the rest (guard, pommel etc.) weights not much less than a full size cavalryman!
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Post by Jordan Williams on Sept 27, 2017 21:47:51 GMT
Yeah, it's a mighty big blade, but the rest (guard, pommel etc.) weights not much less than a full size cavalryman! Ha! That gave me a laugh when the ball dropped in my head
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 15:57:45 GMT
Of course not. But then it won't give you an eight-pound unuseable monstrosity either. :P At 3,5 kilograms my Ryan is wieldable... not overly comfortable, but with OK balance and handling. The fittings are made of brass; i really dontknow what is heavier: brass or bronze? I always had the thoughts of making the fittings "thinner" somehow... not hollow, just smaller, tinier, less bulky.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 16:02:18 GMT
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Post by stormmaster on Sept 28, 2017 16:15:56 GMT
Of course not. But then it won't give you an eight-pound unuseable monstrosity either. At 3,5 kilograms my Ryan is wieldable... not overly comfortable, but with OK balance and handling. The fittings are made of brass; i really dontknow what is heavier: brass or bronze? I always had the thoughts of making the fittings "thinner" somehow... not hollow, just smaller, tinier, less bulky. I thought the Ryansword Atlantean was copper
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 16:43:26 GMT
common misunderstanding (translation?)... when the chinese write "copper" they often mean brass... real copper is called "red copper" or "purple copper" - and makes chinese swords MUCH more expensive... learned that the "hard" way... ;-)
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Post by stormmaster on Sept 28, 2017 16:48:51 GMT
For 500 dollars I would expect some copper action, shame
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 21:03:07 GMT
Better than spend 400-450 Euros for that crappy Windlass thing here in Germany! For SURE; the grip construction is MUCH better!
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Post by stormmaster on Sept 28, 2017 21:26:43 GMT
I've been eyeing it for a while now but whenever I had the money something else always comes up
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2017 7:40:44 GMT
One of my next 2 swords will be the Windlass Atlantean. I am going to have the guard, grip, pommel and tang, all heavily modified. I will start a thread that documents the process.
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