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Post by howler on Aug 20, 2017 19:59:49 GMT
Pykrete War Ships : War Ships that were to be made of wood pulp and frozen water. It's actually kind of a cool idea. I think I'll nominate the "cumberjung". I shall quote Royal Armouries: Quoit Dangerous
This cumberjung is a unique weapon within the collections of the Royal Armouries. It is a double-ended flail, consisting of a wooden shaft turned with mouldings for gripping, and sharpened discs or quoits attached to the brass chains at either end. The faces of the quoits are padded and covered with knotted thread in concentric bands of white, faded red and blue. In its entirety, the flail weighs just over 1 kilogram. It was made in Gujarat on the west coast of India in the late 18th/early 19th centuries.
To use the cumberjung one would grip the handle at either end and manipulate it so that the quoits whirled through the air at either side, slicing into an opponent. It could be a ruthless weapon in close combat, but much skill and practice were needed for it to be properly effective.Now, as far as I can tell, aside from the physical description most of that is simply made up nonsense, and as far as I have been able to determine the thing in the Royal Armouries is the only known example of this "weapon" outside of D&D. My uninformed opinion is that it's some kind of toy or showpiece or possibly a prank (albeit an old one). India has some very strange and deadly weapons...this only fits the former, and is laughable on the latter.
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Post by bigpete on Dec 1, 2017 8:17:04 GMT
I've seen some double ended knives which are pretty stupid
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Post by MOK on Dec 1, 2017 17:26:25 GMT
I've seen some double ended knives which are pretty stupid "I heard you like to knife, so we put a knife on your knife so you can knife while you knife!"
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Dec 1, 2017 23:19:59 GMT
Maknifeicent!
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Post by RaylonTheDemented on Dec 2, 2017 4:21:37 GMT
Funtional chainsword: 21:45 in the video
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Post by RaylonTheDemented on Dec 2, 2017 4:30:26 GMT
Also, functional (lol) 55 pounds anime sword:
Can't believe they did this.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Dec 2, 2017 12:51:18 GMT
Hmmm.. there are a lot of weapons that were tried and later abandoned as being useless. For example, multiple barrell muzzleloader guns (mainly navy variants), double chain flails, etc. But at the end of the day, if it's "stupid" but it worked, then was it really stupid?
I can take a 2x4 and sharpen the end with my pocket knife, most would say that is stupid, but if it worked once to save my life or get me out of a situation, then was it a stupid weapon or an effective one for it's given circumstance?
On the other hand, if I took a known effective weapon and changed it to the point where it no longer worked effectively, then yes, that would be stupid because I now reduced my abilty to defend or attack.
Ultimately, "non stupid" weapons are the ones that we consider classic or timeless because they freakin' work and work well. I don't really feel any weapon in and of itself is stupid because experimentation is how we progress, and not all experiments work out. What is stupid, however, is issuing a hunk of junk weapon to line troops with the idea that they are to actually use it, the French Chauchat machine gun for example.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 14:33:54 GMT
This ridiculous thing. Attachments:
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Post by elbrittania39 on Dec 3, 2017 0:51:55 GMT
Chakram seem really silly to me.
-Very dangerous to the user -No penetrative properties on a projectile -short range -awkward to transport -very easy to deflect if your target is holding anything
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 3, 2017 7:00:19 GMT
Who thought these were worth spending time to make? Just give a man a knife.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Dec 3, 2017 7:03:46 GMT
But with a knife in hand, you can't lower your head and charge enemies like a rhinoceros.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Dec 3, 2017 7:12:52 GMT
Wow, you could attach a little national flag, but beware of thunderstorms and lightnings! And DON'T LEAVE YOUR HAT ON A CHAIR !!!
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 3, 2017 7:51:42 GMT
Chakram seem really silly to me. -Very dangerous to the user -No penetrative properties on a projectile -short range -awkward to transport -very easy to deflect if your target is holding anything They are interesting weapons. One of the longest range thrown weapons - they can be thrown to 200m, and are effective past 100m. Due to their aerodynamics, they will fly level rather than moving in a parabolic arc, so no undershoot or overshoot even if you misjudge the range, and if you miss the first target, it'll keep flying at target-height, and you might hit the next, or the next. Haven't tried cutting with one, but according to Sir Ralph Payne-Gallwey (of the crossbow book), they'll cut through 1" thick branches. Not good against armour or shields, though. (So, despite their shorter range, javelins have their advantages.)
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Post by RaylonTheDemented on Dec 3, 2017 8:23:55 GMT
Found these... And THIS:
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Post by Svadilfari on Dec 4, 2017 20:49:04 GMT
How about a steam powered submarine ? They actually did exist..very briefly :) In the late 1880's, the Nordenfeldt company built a steam powered submarine for the Ottoman Navy..the "AbdulHamid". It had the distinction of being the FIRST submarine to actually fire a torpedo from underwater and sink a ship..even if it was just a target ship. Look it up on Wikipedia :) Here's a 3D model of it - www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/1886-steam-submarine-abdulhamid/81781/
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Post by legacyofthesword on Dec 4, 2017 22:09:36 GMT
How about a steam powered submarine ? They actually did exist..very briefly In the late 1880's, the Nordenfeldt company built a steam powered submarine for the Ottoman Navy..the "AbdulHamid". It had the distinction of being the FIRST submarine to actually fire a torpedo from underwater and sink a ship..even if it was just a target ship. Look it up on Wikipedia Here's a 3D model of it - www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/1886-steam-submarine-abdulhamid/81781/But... but... if it actually worked the way it was supposed to, how does that make it stupid?
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 4, 2017 23:42:37 GMT
To quote Jacky Fisher on steam-powered submarines: "The most fatal error imaginable would be to put steam engines in submarines." The Ottoman ones were not very good. Coal burning, and their underwater propulsion used compressed air (no electric motors) so their underwater endurance was only a few minutes. A warship whose main design feature is stealth belching out great clouds of coal smoke? Stopping and starting the coal fire. Problematic. They didn't really work the way they were supposed to. Maybe not stupid per se, but at least suffered seriously from immature technology. At least the British K-class were oil-fired rather than coal-burning, and had electric motors for respectable underwater performance. Still, they took 5 minutes to submerge in an emergency dive (30 minutes or more, non-emergency). These were the boats that inspired the Fisher quote above. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_submarine_Abdül_Hamiden.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_K-class_submarine
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Post by howler on Dec 5, 2017 2:26:35 GMT
I wondered how sharp those edges were when I first saw these things last year. Just showing off machining prowess, I figure.
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Post by howler on Dec 5, 2017 2:30:01 GMT
Also, functional (lol) 55 pounds anime sword: Can't believe they did this. If only humans were as big and strong as Grizzly bears.
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Post by Ifrit on Dec 6, 2017 2:11:08 GMT
Man, I was gonna say nunchucks, but it is a logical weapon compared to anything else here lol
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