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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 3:05:11 GMT
So I am thinking of having a sword made with my idea of how Storm Bringer looks like. If I remember correctly, it is just double edged, black and have strange runes engraved on. So I guess anything goes As I do Asian sword arts, I actually like one that's based on a Tang Jain (more like a Tang Dao/ chokuto with false edge). Think of it as below with long edge. #/media/File:Seven_stars_sword_Sitenoji_rotated.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokut%C5% #/media/File:Seven_stars_sword_Sitenoji_rotated.jpg"-Kogarasu Maru like photo, back edge about 2/3 long of the blade. -Just plain steel, no lamination, no clay hamon -Shirasaya -78-80cm edge -22-24cm tang (tang similar width and thickness to normal katana tang) -30-35cm handle -Brass habaki -BLACK -engraved"  As for the "rune", I am going with Chinese bone Script, and possibly one do it on one side due to cost.  In modern chinese words: 黄土八相 夫不凄刃 引雨化戈. Translated loosely as "(on) Yellow/desert earth (can be seen) in eight directions, Man (does) not mourn (his) blade, Bring Rain/storm (and) transform (into) War/weapon" I will do the mounting myself, thinking of welding a piece of steel in the bottom of the tang and a large ring pommel. IF I can find a piece of oval iron meteorite of the right size, I may use it as pommel The guard may be one of those Indain Ebay Folded steel simple cross guards. Maybe rattan wrap the scabbard and handle and paint it black. Any ideas/comment? Well apart from telling me that Strong bringer should look like a great sword. Storm bringer is not European, it is Melnibonean, not even a human race  Attachments:
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Post by Timo Nieminen on May 7, 2017 3:15:18 GMT
Sounds good. I'd consider one of the small guards as used on Tang dao/jian, but a longer guard would be fine. A guard like a shamshir or kaskara guard and no habaki would work well (with the langets on the guard, you don't need a habaki/tunkou).
Early Chinese ring pommels were often a separate piece, either forge-welded to the tang or riveted to the tang, or the end of the tang flattened out and folded over and the ring/folded tang then forge-welded.
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 3:45:48 GMT
Oops. When I wrote indian ebay guards I actually meant a tiny cross guard sold by indian based ebayers. vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=262826821149&category=43325&pm=1&ds=0&t=1494128190673Sort of like my other project but tge ebay guard will be slightly bigger. sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/attachment/download/35501I have a set of brass tang dao fittings for another project, they go for $80 because i had to buy a full set with hangers n stuff. I did think of using them but decided to keep it for the actual tang dao project. Cost of blade with blackening n etching is qouted at $185 for 1060 steel but I may go folded (not really gonna cut much). Another option is to do up a S-guard (correct name right? Ones found on WW2 dai dao) from 4mm flat bar Edit: here are so pic of how think my pommel will look like. I got some copper plumbing tubes and caps and made a collar with from one, tried mild steel tubes too but can't find tubes with right OD.  an M12 eye-bolt was cut and filed (took me 6 hours as it was late and couldn't use grinder), tang dao butt cap for comparison, will do some final grinding and filing to fit the collar later, the bolt will be welded on to the tang (tang extension) then. I better get this right as I have to put two collars around the tang before welding and the wood will also need to be spot on so I can just insert the wood panels and slide the upper collar (slight bugger than bottom) toward the hand guard side.   As for hand guard, maybe above mention ebay folder steel guard, or simple S guard from flat 5x30 mm iron bar, I could get a stone one made just like this  Problem is I need to find a tough enough rock/stone (that also looks cool), Iron Meteorite is ideal but so pricy and I believe many fakes out there www.ebay.com/itm/GIBEON-IRON-METEORITE-PART-SLICE-17-6-grams-solid-30-x-28-x-2-mm-/141876096045?hash=item2108796c2d:g:9DYAAOSwJkJWldAQ |
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 5:45:16 GMT
Sounds good. I'd consider one of the small guards as used on Tang dao/jian, but a longer guard would be fine. A guard like a shamshir or kaskara guard and no habaki would work well (with the langets on the guard, you don't need a habaki/tunkou). Early Chinese ring pommels were often a separate piece, either forge-welded to the tang or riveted to the tang, or the end of the tang flattened out and folded over and the ring/folded tang then forge-welded. I didn't know how kaskara guard look like (more like I didn't know they are called that). just looked it up, they indeed look good, any idea of where I can find one? Other wise it will have to be done by stock removal at home (OUCH!) |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 7, 2017 6:27:57 GMT
I already tried to blacken my DSA 2handed Dane, didn't work well.  In my imagination Stormbringer looks like an XVIIIe. In general I dont like squiggly fantasy designs. |
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 6:46:21 GMT
I gonna have my blade blackened by seller  the guys has many colored blades (ninja type) so can do it. Not sure what it is but maybe just gun blue (he said it is some hard wearing hi tech stuff, maybe titanium nitrite, as found in tools and Glocks, possibly not to expensive if he has connections near by to coat them). One of the reasons for picking chokuto style so that the edge can be bare metal and the rest black, so I don't have issues sharpening it after use. I think your DSA is made of 5160, so it has almost 1% chrome in it, whilst not true stainless it makes bluing very hard. That's why some guns parts come out brown instead of black when they come out of the bluing tank. I like mine fairly simple as well, maybe a bit of bling in the guard. But thats all |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 7, 2017 6:51:21 GMT
To bad that there's no black fluorescence!
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 7:02:22 GMT
BTW I just released the front 2/3 of a tang jian blade looks like KOA's Mycenaean Naue, so with a cross guard and a ring pommel, it may look rather European... Well fusion sword that is, no set rules... how the storm bringer is supposed to be
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Post by Timo Nieminen on May 7, 2017 7:13:49 GMT
I didn't know how kaskara guard look like (more like I didn't know they are called that). just looked it up, they indeed look good, any idea of where I can find one? Other wise it will have to be done by stock removal at home (OUCH!) If you're lucky, you might be able to find a cheap junk kaskara with a good guard. Or even a loose guard. Otherwise, DIY. Traditionally, they're made by welding the langets on (the cross is probably 1 piece split in the middle with a chisel while hot, but you could make one by welding two pieces together). If you can weld, it would be easier than stock removal. Here's one shown in good enough close-up so you can see the weld seams: www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?116402-Kaskara |
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 7:14:06 GMT
To bad that there's no black fluorescence! "The battery is low, please charge your blade by sticking it in Yyrkoon" trust me, it will work. Disclaimer: I am not promoting violence, Melniboneans are NOT human as defined by modern laws  |
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Post by Timo Nieminen on May 7, 2017 7:16:26 GMT
BTW I just released the front 2/3 of a tang jian blade looks like KOA's Mycenaean Naue, so with a cross guard and a ring pommel, it may look rather European... Well fusion sword that is, no set rules... how the storm bringer is supposed to be ... but it doesn't look like a real Naue. For a good replica, see www.bronze-age-swords.com/aegean_swords.htm |
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 7:22:00 GMT
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 7:23:51 GMT
I didn't know how kaskara guard look like (more like I didn't know they are called that). just looked it up, they indeed look good, any idea of where I can find one? Other wise it will have to be done by stock removal at home (OUCH!) If you're lucky, you might be able to find a cheap junk kaskara with a good guard. Or even a loose guard. Otherwise, DIY. Traditionally, they're made by welding the langets on (the cross is probably 1 piece split in the middle with a chisel while hot, but you could make one by welding two pieces together). If you can weld, it would be easier than stock removal. Here's one shown in good enough close-up so you can see the weld seams: www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?116402-KaskaraThanks for the link. Yes I know how to weld (just arc welding but it will work). Otherwise one of these ebay hilts chopped off even I cut cross guard out and may even be able recycle the pommel. No guilt becuase it is modern made (you can see traces of silver solder) www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IRON-HAND-FORGED-MUGHAL-SWORD-HILT-HANDLE-/162409342211?hash=item25d059e503:g:e14AAOSwhlZYsbtU |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 7, 2017 7:39:10 GMT
Stormbringer is a demon so a possible design can be some kind of anthropomorphic handle, in the way of a rolled up Giger's Alien or a chinese dragon.
Not so squiggly like the Highlander katana handle and more non-human or organic, like black skinless muscles.
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 8:35:43 GMT
Skinless muscle sounds good, in bronze! Dunno how to cast tho
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 7, 2017 8:54:51 GMT
Something like hard rubber, I have a Gerber Gator folder with such a material, quite organic and very non-slip.
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 9:09:25 GMT
I know I know! Bone!
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 7, 2017 9:24:43 GMT
Might be not lively and snuggly enough, better for a Reaper's scythe.  |
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Post by stopped1 on May 7, 2017 11:57:36 GMT
Might be not lively and snuggly enough, better for a Reaper's scythe. Are you suggesting I build one too Keep the ideas coming. I have time, told the seller I agree on the price but will order once I got the T10 clay tempered sword delivered (he should be finished with it this or next week). The other thing is I can't spend too much, have 2 sword being built (paid for), a miao dao and the storm bringer agreed on prices buy waiting for delivery before I order (plus an antique pistol), I am so broke so the mounting need to be on the cheap side...  |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 7, 2017 12:16:59 GMT
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the guys has many colored blades (ninja type) so can do it. Not sure what it is but maybe just gun blue (he said it is some hard wearing hi tech stuff, maybe titanium nitrite, as found in tools and Glocks, possibly not to expensive if he has connections near by to coat them). One of the reasons for picking chokuto style so that the edge can be bare metal and the rest black, so I don't have issues sharpening it after use. 
