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Post by newtothis on Apr 11, 2017 1:32:54 GMT
I've just recently aquired a new sword. I found it at a thrift store, so i doubt it's worth much, but i want to figure out what its design might be based off. it is a short metal double edged sword with a large round hand guard, a spiral like handle, and a bronze looking hilt. It has a small interesting design on the strong of the blade, looking like a cresent moon, with lines the acend about a 3rd up the flat.on the side of the metal, close to the guard it reads in small print "Stainless Pakistan". does anyone have any idea what to make of it?
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Post by Faldarin on Apr 11, 2017 2:44:53 GMT
It would help a little bit more with pictures. Could you post an imgur gallery or something - or make an account/wait for it to be validated here, so you can post pictures? From what you're saying, it sounds like a decorative piece from a Pakistani forge, maybe a gladius or a katzbalger of some sort - but it's hard to tell what you mean by some parts of your description. Pictures would be much better.
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Post by newtothis on Apr 11, 2017 12:13:02 GMT
I was having trouble finding out how to upload pictures, sorry. i'll continue trying thank you for the help
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 11, 2017 12:45:20 GMT
Hello, afaik only registered members can upload pictures, not guests. Perhaps a link?
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Post by pgandy on Apr 11, 2017 14:41:20 GMT
We would be glad to have you as a member. There’s no cost.
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Post by formallycasual on Apr 11, 2017 20:15:29 GMT
Hey im "newtothis" i just made an acount, I'll try to upload pictures. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Post by gandermail on Apr 11, 2017 20:49:54 GMT
OK, that's one odd looking sword. I can't help you there but I wanted to say I don't think anyone feels "inconvenienced" this is a very friendly forum. Maybe you'll get the sword bug and stick around. You couldn't randomly assemble a group of folks and get a nicer bunch than we have here.
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Post by Faldarin on Apr 11, 2017 21:44:38 GMT
Wat r u, casul? (I kid, I kid.) Ahem - hey and welcome, formallycasual. This sword doesn't appear to be a historical recreation to me. It's also obviously been beaten up quite a bit. It is a fantasy design... I can't think of any historical piece that used a disc guard with a blade like that. The gladius that I mentioned before has a round guard, and the katzbalger usually had guards curved circularly. Both of those would have considerably shorter and wider blades as well. Long and short, you've got a decorative piece, worth 15-20$ possibly. I wouldn't actually try to swing it around even like a sword however... for two reasons. One, it's stainless steel - not something you'd want to make a sword out of in most cases. Two - well, let me get part of your picture. The gap here likely means that the tang that runs through the handle is wimpy, or worse, just a thin steel rod. It probably would have a good chance of breaking if swung with any force. You said that you wanted to know what the design is based off of, more than anything else though, right? The blade itself above where the design is looks like some longsword types I've seen, but doesn't fit into quite any category. It's got a hexagonal cross-section similar to some type XVII or XIX that I've seen. The flat part with a design on it is quite a bit larger than most blades that had them (type XIX). Most of the grip/guard/and pommel are even more seperated from historical piece though - and I don't know any fantasy pieces of this description. I actually do like the design and the 'lines' down the blade. Are they etched in deeply?
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Post by formallycasual on Apr 11, 2017 22:55:16 GMT
Yeah, fairly deep. I found the sword in this damaged condition at value village. However had it before had also covered the handle in medical tape and blue electrical tape like a hockey stick. I don't know why, the handle is beautiful. Thank you very much for your help, can't wait to hang it up.
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Post by Faldarin on Apr 11, 2017 23:45:42 GMT
Judging from the condition and your mention of hockey tape, whoever had it previously likely made the (dubious) decision to try to use it for practice or backyard cutting. I wouldn't recommend either with this blade. If you don't like the 'battle scarred' look, you could always polish it up, if you're careful of the designs. There's plenty of guides that you can find around for that.
Happy to help. It does look fairly unique, and I do like the etching/art.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 12, 2017 16:01:48 GMT
Hello again and welcome to the forum! I've never seen such a desing before and I'm quite sure it's some fantasy/scifi/manga/anime design. Stainless steel is - if quenched - usually to brittle for long sword blades and the whole design speakes "display sword", so it can have only a thin rat-tail tang too. Cutting with this might be dangerous: "helicopter of death".
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Post by Degen-with-a-sword on Nov 6, 2022 4:33:27 GMT
I know this forum has been dead for a good while, but I’m just throwing this at the wall and seeing if it lands in a hole in the wall. My friend is moving soon but she gave me this sword. I’m currently trying to make an account to try and share a picture, but it’s about 2 feet long with a somewhat intricate handle design and even the guard looks very detailed. It’s very heavy compared to a machete which I guess is normal. It’s mostly flat with edges that aren’t dull, but simply haven’t been sharpened, while it’s tip is pretty sharp. The blade has no cuts up until a few inches up the blade where the flat blade is cut down on either side to eventually form a normal looking blade. It’s got very small patches of rust and scratches. It doesn’t seem practical bc the handle is pretty much entirely circular so ot wasn’t built with edge alignment in mind as far as I know, and the guards have bits that intentionally poke out towards the hand. Maybe I’m just holding it too far up the handle tho. There’s a stamp where the manufacturer stamp goes that says Pakistan. I’m not sure what to do with all this info but if anyone knows anything about it, I’d appreciate it. Ty
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Post by cas3010 on Nov 27, 2022 19:51:23 GMT
Hello, I am another newbie after acquiring a long sword from my father. I have no idea who the maker is, what the hilt means, etc. I was wondering if there was anyone out there who might help with all this? i am guessing that it was made in the late 70s or early 80s. I am attaching photos of it here. The stamp on the blade appears to be a wolf/dog/something else? Here are other details about it: Overall length: 40" Blade Length: 32 3/4"; 1 3/4" wide tapering to .75" Handle Length: 7 1/4" Width of guard: 8 7/8” Weight: 2 lb 11 oz Point of Balance: best estimate 5 1/2" Leather-wrapped leather scabbard with steel accents Attachments:
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Post by eastman on Nov 27, 2022 21:55:36 GMT
Hello, I am another newbie after acquiring a long sword from my father. I have no idea who the maker is, what the hilt means, etc. I was wondering if there was anyone out there who might help with all this? i am guessing that it was made in the late 70s or early 80s. I am attaching photos of it here. The stamp on the blade appears to be a wolf/dog/something else? Here are other details about it: Overall length: 40" Blade Length: 32 3/4"; 1 3/4" wide tapering to .75" Handle Length: 7 1/4" Width of guard: 8 7/8” Weight: 2 lb 11 oz Point of Balance: best estimate 5 1/2" Leather-wrapped leather scabbard with steel accents
Based on the pictures, I think you have one of the DelTin Irish ring-hilt swords made for Museum Replicas Limited in the late 80s/early 90s. They made modifications to the design over the years it was produced, and yours looks like the late 80s version.
DelTin products of that era were frequently marked with the running wolf maker's mark. They were made of Krupp CK55 steel. You have acquired a fine sword
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Post by cas3010 on Nov 28, 2022 16:16:50 GMT
Thank you! I searched the internet for hours and never came upon the DelTin name. I much appreciate your taking the time to answer my call for help.
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Post by pgandy on Nov 28, 2022 16:50:52 GMT
Welcome to the forum cas3010 and I agree, that's a fine sword you received.
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Post by eastman on Nov 29, 2022 3:06:44 GMT
Thank you! I searched the internet for hours and never came upon the DelTin name. I much appreciate your taking the time to answer my call for help.
When I was first introduced to the MRL catalogs in the late 80s, I used to look them over in great detail and think of the swords I'd buy if I wasn't a broke college student. That Irish hilt sword was one of the ones that always caught my eye.
My first real sword was a DelTin Joinville from the first MRL catalog I looked through.
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