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Post by unlikely on Feb 17, 2017 3:51:46 GMT
Ordered a Jian out of the blemished section from KoA. It came here a day ago, it has several but minor pitting spots, a somewhat loose pommel (it's a threaded pommel but it was also glued on which means i can't fix anything or look inside the sword), and just today with some preliminary swinging I notice a little "pop" feeling every time I swing it. I bring the handle up to my ear and shake the sword side to side, and I hear rattling. I shake the guard vigorously: it's not the guard. I know the pommel is already a bit screwy but it makes a different sound when shaken than the thing near the guard. I can only assume that it's the tang inside the handle, somewhere around the guard/right below the guard. Is this cause for concern? Because of the permanent construction, I cannot take it apart and look inside. All of these minor issues are adding up and I'm considering returning it, now that there is a potential safety concern.
I'm a total noob, I'm definitely stupid enough to hurt myself swinging it too hard and snapping a loose tang. (Totally hypothetical by the way, not bashing the quality of Iron Tiger Forge; if it were fresh off the press I think I'd actually be quite happy with it. In form, it's quite nice).
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Post by Jordan Williams on Feb 17, 2017 18:49:00 GMT
Sounds like it's the grip, I'd buy some epoxy (I forget the stuff I had, but don't buy the gorilla glue as it expands) and then use it between the grip and tang.
A glued on screw on isn't permanent, try heating up the threaded area to try and melt the glue or get it back to liquid. As for the scabbard, I wouldn't worry about it. A little scabbard rattle never hurt a sword to my knowledge.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Feb 17, 2017 18:51:06 GMT
Also welcome back!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 13:07:40 GMT
"common" jians often have the problem that the grip is not fitted to the tang AT ALL! Learned this the hard way... they are NOT battle-ready, and i find it questionable that KOA keeps them advertised as if they were or at least clears up the construction. Of course there are exceptions: the Hanweis, CS models, Kris Cutlery stuff... Huawei even points out the issue and explains the safe construction, as some from ST-Nihonto. My JKoo-Sword Jian is safe, grip & pommel pinned to the blade. Swords Of Might for example on the other hand say CLEARLY that their Jians in the 300 to 400 dollar level ARE DEFINITELY constructed the "weaker" way and are for decorative issues only! The tang just sits in a cylindric empty space inside the grip, and the blade/grip are NOT (katana-like) pinned. So the best you can do is: unscrew the pommel and if it is the "hollow grip/no tang fitting" syndrome just fill it up with epoxy. It usually works. Often. Mostly.
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Post by unlikely on Feb 21, 2017 3:01:03 GMT
"common" jians often have the problem that the grip is not fitted to the tang AT ALL! Learned this the hard way... they are NOT battle-ready, and i find it questionable that KOA keeps them advertised as if they were or at least clears up the construction. Of course there are exceptions: the Hanweis, CS models, Kris Cutlery stuff... Huawei even points out the issue and explains the safe construction, as some from ST-Nihonto. My JKoo-Sword Jian is safe, grip & pommel pinned to the blade. Swords Of Might for example on the other hand say CLEARLY that their Jians in the 300 to 400 dollar level ARE DEFINITELY constructed the "weaker" way and are for decorative issues only! The tang just sits in a cylindric empty space inside the grip, and the blade/grip are NOT (katana-like) pinned. So the best you can do is: unscrew the pommel and if it is the "hollow grip/no tang fitting" syndrome just fill it up with epoxy. It usually works. Often. Mostly. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I'll have to investigate this if at all possible. Praise be, All Mighty Holg. EDIT: Upon more, extremely thorough investigation, it was actually the pommel making the rattling noise. The pommel makes a different sound when it moves in one direction than the other, so it sounds like there are two different things rattling. So theoretically, the tang construction is sound.
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Post by pgandy on Feb 24, 2017 20:53:09 GMT
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