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Post by Afoo on Feb 8, 2017 15:42:22 GMT
Personally I would prefer Neuhausen, just for the 10% authentic swiss experience :D
I have an 1867 from Alex Coppel of Solingen, and it handles just fine. Have not handled a Neuhausen production though
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Post by Jordan Williams on Feb 8, 2017 17:51:44 GMT
I had a Coppel of Solingen, I really regret selling it. I'd say either, they're both good sword factories.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 9, 2017 0:09:50 GMT
Currently I’m looking to buy another Swiss M1867 cavalry saber. AFAIK, blades for these were made in Solingen, Germany and Neuhausen, Switzerland. This shows through the stamps at the ricasso, for example S.I.G. Neuhausen or Gebr. Weyersberg Solingen. I know this is a rather hard to answer (and maybe downright stupid) question, but could there be any reason to prefer blades from one of those places of manufacture, as far as quality is concerned? I don't understand why Neuhausen couldn't meet the Swiss demand for armes blanche by themselves. Must have been a capacity limit or return on swords issue. Supplemental weapons from German cotractors seemed to be a regular occurence. Agree with Afoo comment that for collectors, the desire to have Swiss Sabres for the sake of originality has a snob appeal. Functionally I've never noticed a difference of quality or handling character.
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Post by Afoo on Feb 9, 2017 1:47:13 GMT
Currently I’m looking to buy another Swiss M1867 cavalry saber. AFAIK, blades for these were made in Solingen, Germany and Neuhausen, Switzerland. This shows through the stamps at the ricasso, for example S.I.G. Neuhausen or Gebr. Weyersberg Solingen. I know this is a rather hard to answer (and maybe downright stupid) question, but could there be any reason to prefer blades from one of those places of manufacture, as far as quality is concerned? I don't understand why Neuhausen couldn't meet the Swiss demand for armes blanche by themselves. Must have been a capacity limit or return on swords issue. Supplemental weapons from German cotractors seemed to be a regular occurence. Agree with Afoo comment that for collectors, the desire to have Swiss Sabres for the sake of originality has a snob appeal. Functionally I've never noticed a difference of quality or handling character. I have not paid much heed to this, but it seems like Swiss Bayonets are almost exclusively made domestically. Maybe they were too busy making those (along with those cute red knives for the army)
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Post by bfoo2 on Feb 10, 2017 7:06:38 GMT
I guess the Swiss understood before everyone else that guns (and bayonets) are of more importance (and thus higher production priority) than swords. Interesting how we are debating whether swords made in Switzerland or Germany are better. That's like debating between a Ferrari or a Porche. I can't imagine either country having a rep for shoddy swords (or workmanship in general) Also for consideration: the Swiss 1867 model shared several similarities with other German swords of the period (Baden/ Wurttemberg, and several of the Austrian models of the day). Many of these were also made in Solingen. Maybe the Germans were involved in the design/development and/or had some of the tooling from these previous models handy?
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 15, 2017 22:39:13 GMT
No stopping: you need a 67 Cav Officer's Sabre.
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Post by Croccifixio on Feb 16, 2017 1:48:31 GMT
There was a bunch of 67s on ebay a few days ago. All gone now I think or maybe there's one more in my watchlist. They're going pretty high these days though.
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Feb 16, 2017 7:50:03 GMT
How are these in the hand for fencing on foot?
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 16, 2017 22:43:01 GMT
How are these in the hand for fencing on foot? Much as I luv the 67 enlisted, it is a tad slow in hand for a foot sword. The officer version is superior, by comparison. I don't think much of the '96 as a cavalry saber, but is a fine foot sword.
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Post by Afoo on Feb 17, 2017 6:20:39 GMT
Am surprised at the variation between the German and Swiss production models. How do they compare in terms of feel in the hand?
Perhaps you could say the handling on the Swiss is a bit more....neutral? : D
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