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Post by vinland on Jan 29, 2017 22:35:50 GMT
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Post by Robert on Jan 29, 2017 23:32:40 GMT
Also check out gael fabre, he is about albion price and quality level
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Jan 29, 2017 23:51:44 GMT
playing devils advokate but...of all this often complex difficult stuff y'all wanna see, How many of you are willing to pony up the funds to have them made? There are lots of custom smiths who will make you anything you want.
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Post by vinland on Jan 30, 2017 0:10:35 GMT
playing devils advokate but...of all this often complex difficult stuff y'all wanna see, How many of you are willing to pony up the funds to have them made? There are lots of custom smiths who will make you anything you want. Yeah this is the biggest thing, often a lot of the really complex swords are hard to find because they're expensive to make. Had talked to Matthew Jensen about this in regards to a Korean sword based on his experiences with getting custom katanas, that green one I posted in the original post, those fittings from what he guesses would drive up the cost by a ton. I imagine this would be true for just about any renaissance & early modern sword. Those basket hilts and complex guards must be a nightmare to do right
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Post by hypurr on Jan 30, 2017 2:24:22 GMT
Thanks. I already have the 2071. Just did a cutting video with it.
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Post by Barnaum on Jan 30, 2017 2:31:10 GMT
I'd like to see more hangers and hunting swords and basically any curved swords from the 17th century.
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Post by thedirewolf93 on Jan 30, 2017 5:53:19 GMT
Personally I would love to see some nice really large swords like claymores, Zwiehanders and Odachi/Nodachi up for sale. I noticed that there are either really entry swords or full on masterpieces but no working man's greatswords out there. Another thing I would love to see more of is Asian pole arms I have yet to see more then one or two on Kult of Athena and everything else seems to just sell the pole and never a weapon head for it.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Jan 30, 2017 20:59:18 GMT
Replicas of historical Japanese swords... I have been saying this for so many years and it wont probably ever happen. I just find it crazy that we get so many good reproductions of famous European swords etc. but all the Japanese swords are just put together. There are many sort-of reproductions of famous European swords. But most of them aren't good. For example, compare the various Turin St Maurice swords (Albion Museum Line, Del Tin, Deepeeka) and the Vienna St Maurice swords (Arms & Armor, Windlass). The Del Tin is 3" shorter and 3oz heavier than the Albion, the Windlass is 4" shorter and about 1lb heavier than the A&A. Compared to the original, the Hanwei Cromwell is about the right length, but 9oz heavier; the original doesn't have a ricasso and the fuller goes all the way to the guard. (The points upthread about replica sabres is also relevant - mostly, they're not good reproductions.) You'd get as good, and sometimes better replicas of individual Japanese swords if you got a generic Chinese katana, and put on tsuba, fuchi, kashira, menuki copied from the original, or sort of similar, and made sure the colours matches. That'd be a cookie-cutter replica. I think the real issue with Japanese replicas is that the typical Western buyer doesn't recognise particular Japanese swords beyond "katana", "wakizashi", "gunto". So you can buy generic katana and wakizashi, and specific types of gunto. Movie/TV swords get more recognition (Kill Bill, The Last Samurai, Highlander if you count the sword as Japanese, Sucker Punch, Walking Dead) but those aren't historical. Still, if Hanwei did an Albion-like "museum line", they should get buyers. When they're selling swords at $1000 to $2000, it doesn't matter so much what the $50-$200 market wants. I totally agree with you Timo. I think that I am expecting something that is not really doable at budget prices. And paying big bucks for something like that wouldn't be something I would do (Well Hanwei Odachi was an exception).
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Post by bbycrts on Jan 30, 2017 21:59:45 GMT
Smallswords. I love smallswords, but the selection is...well...small. I got one of the Cold Steel seconds, which was a fantastic deal, and I have a Windlass that hangs nicely but doesn't really have the grace of the design.
Oh, and I want it to be fashionable to wear a smallsword to formal occasions again...
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Post by Cosmoline on Jan 31, 2017 1:19:13 GMT
Good quality langes messer are tough to find. Even the Albion has an oddly short handle, and others are overweight or just wrong in one respect or another. Really they're weaponized machetes, so you'd think people would be churning them out.
Ditto the lack of quality early modern swords. I guess there's still competition from the originals on that front.
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Post by Ifrit on Jan 31, 2017 8:19:05 GMT
I really wish they made a functional master sword. One that wasn't over 2k. I would love to be able to buy one
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Post by Luka on Jan 31, 2017 12:12:54 GMT
playing devils advokate but...of all this often complex difficult stuff y'all wanna see, How many of you are willing to pony up the funds to have them made? There are lots of custom smiths who will make you anything you want. :P Of course they will. But let's for example look at the type XI I said I would like to see production made. Hanwei Tinker swords satisfy me with their level of quality for a some simpler sword types. For vikings, production doesn't satisfy me. HT or Del Tin blades are good enough for me, but I get custom fittings for them for authenticity production fittings don't have. For mentioned type XI, HT would satisfy me completely. They would basically just have to take their GSoW blade, narrow it down to 4.5cm in the base, distal taper is ok and shorten the grip. Fittings can be reused from their Norman model. So, they could easily make an ok type XI with no more problems than they have with many other models they make. It won't be an Albion but it would be an ok example of a rarely reproduced sword type...
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Jan 31, 2017 16:16:51 GMT
playing devils advokate but...of all this often complex difficult stuff y'all wanna see, How many of you are willing to pony up the funds to have them made? There are lots of custom smiths who will make you anything you want. Of course they will. But let's for example look at the type XI I said I would like to see production made. Hanwei Tinker swords satisfy me with their level of quality for a some simpler sword types. For vikings, production doesn't satisfy me. HT or Del Tin blades are good enough for me, but I get custom fittings for them for authenticity production fittings don't have. For mentioned type XI, HT would satisfy me completely. They would basically just have to take their GSoW blade, narrow it down to 4.5cm in the base, distal taper is ok and shorten the grip. Fittings can be reused from their Norman model. So, they could easily make an ok type XI with no more problems than they have with many other models they make. It won't be an Albion but it would be an ok example of a rarely reproduced sword type... Touche'
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Post by Aeliascent [defunct] on Jan 31, 2017 20:51:30 GMT
Zombie Tools should totally make a Han Dynasty styled jian.
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Post by Johnion on Feb 1, 2017 16:45:59 GMT
I'd love see the return of the Krupps Steel Del Tin Claymore (in weight and balance)that is affordable. Finding a decent claymore that is useable (under 5 lbs),balanced, and won't leave me homeless is very difficult.
I have handled a Sabersmith Claymore and if I had an extra $1200 (times two, because it is also my daughter's favourite weapon.), I would have bought it, er, them on the spot.
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Post by LeMal on Feb 1, 2017 17:05:50 GMT
One word. Kilij.
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Post by bluetrain on Feb 1, 2017 17:37:57 GMT
Most of the swords, mostly military swords and sabers, have never gone out of production. However, the currently available ones tend to be manufactured from stainless steel and none are sharp, although some from Cold Steel are. I'd also like to see some of the typical officer's swords and sabers from the late 19th and early 20th century period, mainly French and German. I realize there are originals out there if one searches diligently. But I can't really afford reproductions, much less the originals. Also, as long as we're just wishing, I'd like to see more Renaissance period swords. There are a few nice-looking reproductions from that period but the same limitations apply.
If something never went out of production, like British army swords, even though the manufacturers may be different, would they be considered reproductions?
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Feb 1, 2017 17:52:48 GMT
Somewhat related to this topic, I would love if all the major production houses sold the entirety of their catalog of blades and hilt furniture à la carte (perhaps also in various states of completion).
I want to be able to pair an Albion Viceroy pommel with a Knecht guard on a Cheness Ayame blade, and I don't want to have to purchase all three of those finished products just to tear them apart.
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Post by ineffableone on Feb 1, 2017 23:31:13 GMT
Somewhat related to this topic, I would love if all the major production houses sold the entirety of their catalog of blades and hilt furniture à la carte (perhaps also in various states of completion). I want to be able to pair an Albion Viceroy pommel with a Knecht guard on a Cheness Ayame blade, and I don't want to have to purchase all three of those finished products just to tear them apart. Yes! Though since a lot of Eruos are peened, a lot of customization would likely be best done in house. It would be nice if a sort of semi custom option were possible. These places tend to have a wait time anyways, so it is not like they have a bunch of swords premade. They are making them as ordered. It would be nice to be able to do some blades with a different hilt or pommel. I think a lot of interesting possibilities could be created in the Euro scene if we were allowed a bit more furniture swapping customization.
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