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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 28, 2017 4:48:15 GMT
Sideswords and rapiers. There's so much variation in the designs of the guards and blades that the existing lineup doesn't cover it. Moreover, there are huge pricing gaps to be covered between things like the Windlass Munich and the A&A Town Guard. And it's hard to find a high-end, sharp rapier. A&A makes them, but not really anyone else. Del Tin is available from KoA. Lutel is in the same range as A&A but they can provide you with weapon sets with carrirers, which A&A and Del Tin don't provide. 12 years ago Windlass had some interesting rapiers with 37-38 inch heavy blades. Demand dried up and they were abandoned. Maybe it's time to regenerate.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 28, 2017 4:51:57 GMT
I want a wide selection of Albion quality sabres and other post-Renaissance military swords. Contact Viktor Bebrbekucz www.berbekuczviktor.hu/angol/angol.htmlHis wife can't answer in english, and I believe they will take paypal.
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Post by bfoo2 on Jan 28, 2017 4:58:40 GMT
Speaking of rapier. Does anyone make rapier spare blades? Hanwei makes bare blades for their rapiers. Available in "sharp", and two flavors of "practical" (slightly rounded or fully blunt, depending on how much pain you want your sparring partner to experience). Darkwood armoury makes a range of rapier blades, including practical-sparring, cavalry, and many other flavours. Most expensive option, but they'll customize to your tang specifications. Never ordered one myself, but they seem to have a good rep. Zen Warrior Armoury also makes some rapiers. Prices are very reasonable, but I can't find much information/reviews about them. Finally, Alchem makes some rapier blades (if they're still in business). Last I checked the wait times were 6-8 months. Don't know too much about them, but just putting it out there. From personal experience, I can only speak for the Hanweis. I have their blunt-practical (in 37 and 43-in versions). The 37' is a bit floppy but is still quite reasonable. I actually like the floppiness since I can spar in normal 450N fencing jackets vs having to get more specialized protective gear. The 43' is ridiculously floppy and I could not recommend it. The steel n both of these is a bit hard, so they tend to chip fairly easily.
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Post by Scott on Jan 28, 2017 5:11:01 GMT
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Post by kasim18 on Jan 28, 2017 5:12:43 GMT
Ko-Katana, Wakizashi, and most of all: Jian. Where are the cheap Jian at? I see 80$ katana. Why not 80$ Jian? Or 80$ wak Ten Ryu makes an $85 wak. I have the Daisho and it is quite nice actually. Ten Ryu TR-005. AISI 1045 DH, with actual iron musashi style tsuba. agree 100% on the jian. and more than that, i want options! I really like the look of the CS Jade Lion Gim, I am willing to sometimes shell out what I need to pay for a better sword $4-500 would take some saving, but I could make it happen. now if someone could keep them honest and compete, a company that is not CS making a solid and sharp jian in that style that moves and is constructed better than CS is known for, I would buy from them tomorrow, i would have the Jade Lion most likely by now, but i don't trust their products
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Post by bfoo2 on Jan 28, 2017 5:13:41 GMT
Shhhh...... you can't talk about Medieval Fight Club
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Post by Aeliascent [defunct] on Jan 28, 2017 5:35:12 GMT
Easily good quality jian. That and quality Chinese bronze swords.
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Post by ineffableone on Jan 28, 2017 9:24:42 GMT
A big yes more quality jian, but really more equality all Chinese swords. It is insane how many good decent swords are made in China but it is a struggle to find a good quality Chinese weapon. It really makes no sense.
Another one I would love to see is more Burmese Dha. I really like the Banshee I got, but looking at the true Burmese made Dha gets depressing as most are cheap junk I would be afraid to use. I know someone in Burma has to still make quality Dha because people still train with them and use them in the jungles as machete. But you just don't see them for sale online it seems.
On the katana front, the style that brought me to SBG asking questions the kissaki Morha is such an under represented sword style though it is, in my opinion, one of the coolest. For a short time there was a surge in companies offering them, but it seems to have faded once again.
On the Euro side, just more of all of them please. More different styles, more choices, more quality, more scale of affordability but still functional.I love to drool over Albion or A&A swords, but at those prices and wait times, do I want to pay and wait for a sword and find out I didn't really like that one that much? That it just didn't fit my sword use? Some lower cost but functional versions of Euros I think could really help expand people's practical experience with various styles. Then they can know what to invest in for higher quality. I often make that recommendation with 1st time katana buyers, to take advantage of the low cost katana in various styles to learn what you like and dislike. Sometimes I think some of the nitpicky for historic accuracy in the Euro side has hurt the Euro sword market. When lower cost options do get offered, there is often a lot of complaints of accuracy, rather than joy of affordable options.
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 28, 2017 11:19:31 GMT
It is unfortunate Jin Shi went out of business. Those were affordable chinese blades that were pretty incredible for their price range. I had a twistcore two handed jian that was cheaper than most of the jian options out there which I would have put up against just about any repro jian.
Where are the affordable yatagans of the varying types? Or shaska of varying types or karabela and the like? Lots of great swords out there that are not made by anyone in an affordable usable quality. Had to go overseas to a polish smith to find an affordable, usable and lightweight sabre of the type I was looking for. Difficulty there is the language barrier and whether they actually understand you. Guess I will find out in 4 months.
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Post by Croccifixio on Jan 28, 2017 12:28:58 GMT
Korean Swords, Backswords and Sabres (good repros, that is), Sideswords, Nimcha, African Swords, Indian Swords, Katzbalgers, Hungarian Sabres, Polish Sabres, Vietnamese Swords, the list goes on and on and on...
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 28, 2017 13:25:16 GMT
I forgot to mention high quality bronze swords from multiple civilisations.
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Post by Robert on Jan 28, 2017 13:35:53 GMT
I forgot to mention high quality bronze swords from multiple civilisations. www.bronze-age-swords.com/index.htm there you go Also I'd like to see more of the Reannisance stuff like schiavonas, complex-hilted longswords, sideswords, sabers etc.
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Post by pgandy on Jan 28, 2017 13:55:08 GMT
I would like to see swords, especially sabres, with more distal taper and swords in general that handle like the originals.
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 28, 2017 13:58:44 GMT
I forgot to mention high quality bronze swords from multiple civilisations. www.bronze-age-swords.com/index.htm there you go :) Also I'd like to see more of the Reannisance stuff like schiavonas, complex-hilted longswords, sideswords, sabers etc. Thank you, I was aware of Neil. The subject of the topic is swords we wished more people made. Would like to see more people making bronze replicas. I do believe there is also an Australian company that makes bronze swords.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 14:15:20 GMT
Speaking of rapier. Does anyone make rapier spare blades? Hanwei makes bare blades for their rapiers. Available in "sharp", and two flavors of "practical" (slightly rounded or fully blunt, depending on how much pain you want your sparring partner to experience). Darkwood armoury makes a range of rapier blades, including practical-sparring, cavalry, and many other flavours. Most expensive option, but they'll customize to your tang specifications. Never ordered one myself, but they seem to have a good rep. Zen Warrior Armoury also makes some rapiers. Prices are very reasonable, but I can't find much information/reviews about them. Finally, Alchem makes some rapier blades (if they're still in business). Last I checked the wait times were 6-8 months. Don't know too much about them, but just putting it out there. From personal experience, I can only speak for the Hanweis. I have their blunt-practical (in 37 and 43-in versions). The 37' is a bit floppy but is still quite reasonable. I actually like the floppiness since I can spar in normal 450N fencing jackets vs having to get more specialized protective gear. The 43' is ridiculously floppy and I could not recommend it. The steel n both of these is a bit hard, so they tend to chip fairly easily. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=OH2255www.darkwoodarmory.com/?main_page=index&cPath=11_12www.alcheminc.com/longblades.htmlwww.zenwarriorarmory.com/catalog.php?item=79www.amfence.com/html/blades_armoury.htmlwww.arms-n-armor.com/
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Jan 29, 2017 10:27:11 GMT
Replicas of historical Japanese swords... I have been saying this for so many years and it wont probably ever happen. I just find it crazy that we get so many good reproductions of famous European swords etc. but all the Japanese swords are just put together. I think these will have as many buyers as regular cookie cutter Japanese production swords.
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Post by Luka on Jan 29, 2017 11:43:02 GMT
Nobody except Albion makes a good production type XI. :( There are some but they are either too short or have diamond sections after fuller. :/
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jan 29, 2017 12:16:30 GMT
Replicas of historical Japanese swords... I have been saying this for so many years and it wont probably ever happen. I just find it crazy that we get so many good reproductions of famous European swords etc. but all the Japanese swords are just put together. :( There are many sort-of reproductions of famous European swords. But most of them aren't good. For example, compare the various Turin St Maurice swords (Albion Museum Line, Del Tin, Deepeeka) and the Vienna St Maurice swords (Arms & Armor, Windlass). The Del Tin is 3" shorter and 3oz heavier than the Albion, the Windlass is 4" shorter and about 1lb heavier than the A&A. Compared to the original, the Hanwei Cromwell is about the right length, but 9oz heavier; the original doesn't have a ricasso and the fuller goes all the way to the guard. (The points upthread about replica sabres is also relevant - mostly, they're not good reproductions.) You'd get as good, and sometimes better replicas of individual Japanese swords if you got a generic Chinese katana, and put on tsuba, fuchi, kashira, menuki copied from the original, or sort of similar, and made sure the colours matches. That'd be a cookie-cutter replica. I think the real issue with Japanese replicas is that the typical Western buyer doesn't recognise particular Japanese swords beyond "katana", "wakizashi", "gunto". So you can buy generic katana and wakizashi, and specific types of gunto. Movie/TV swords get more recognition (Kill Bill, The Last Samurai, Highlander if you count the sword as Japanese, Sucker Punch, Walking Dead) but those aren't historical. Still, if Hanwei did an Albion-like "museum line", they should get buyers. When they're selling swords at $1000 to $2000, it doesn't matter so much what the $50-$200 market wants.
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Post by demonskull on Jan 29, 2017 12:40:53 GMT
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Post by hypurr on Jan 29, 2017 22:04:42 GMT
I would like more Migration/Vendel Era swords. I love the work of Patrick Barta at Templ swords but they are way out of my price range.
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