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Post by arfoo on Jan 6, 2017 10:51:21 GMT
From a self-defense perspective, it's like people are proud of having a box cutter
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 6, 2017 12:12:14 GMT
Do you have any idea how much damage a simple box cutter can do in the right hands? Not that I would use a box cutter in a self defense situation.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 6, 2017 12:22:14 GMT
Perhaps practical or legal carrying issues, or hiding.
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Post by DigsFossils-n-Knives on Jan 6, 2017 13:04:27 GMT
Small knives are light wt, fast, and great for close quarters self-defense. It works with the right style of fighting. And tiny knives can be carried around the neck, or can be part of a bug-out bag without added much wt.
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 6, 2017 13:34:29 GMT
I think that if you are carrying a knife and you aren't using it for every day tasks, It can be seen as you looking for an opportunity. In a court of law I think that would speak to motive. Carrying a box cutter though is not terribly suspicious. Carry a kerambit though, that is recognised as a fighting knife and you would be hard pressed to argue that it was for self defense or for every day carry. Knives are an incredibly offensive and "scary" weapon to most people. A box cutter though, the right type, can be used defensively without employing the blade. If you want a self defense weapon, get a kubotan and learn how to effectively use it.
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Post by Derzis on Jan 6, 2017 13:44:23 GMT
From a self-defense perspective, it's like people are proud of having a box cutter Why someone will chose an EDC based on self-defense capabilities of a knife? If he is paranoiac the answer is obvious though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 14:38:14 GMT
Walking around with a gigantic knife isn't cool, you look like you're trying to compensate for something and the apparent attitude for small blades all but confirms it.
99.99% of your applications for an edc are going to be opening packages, occassionally in extreme situations you might cut fruit. Swaggering around and live action roleplaying the part of an Operator is something most well adjusted people grow out of.
I like my big silly nimravus, but it'd be ridiculous to walk around town or take it to the office.
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 6, 2017 17:28:24 GMT
Biggest knife I'll wear is still under 6" blade length. Anything bigger is just not practical; it gets in the way and has very limited usability.
My folders hang out in the 3.5-4" range. Smaller than that and I don't feel the blade adequate for the most common use of my knives (eating) and bigger just takes up room in my already crowded pockets.
Self defense knife? No such thing exists.
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Post by Ifrit on Jan 6, 2017 17:36:00 GMT
There's not much more I can say that others already haven't said but most applications with a knife are close quarters, in the modern world. You are not likely to be standing comfortably, ready to duel, when attacked. You might even be forced to grapple on the ground. Such instances, a small knife is favorable.
Even carrying my 6" ti-lite feels way excessive to be honest. Sometimes it's better to be nimble if attacked with a knife.
If you were in a combat situation, like in a jungle that you knew very well, and you had a big knife on your belt, you might find better use of it, but walking around with a giant knife in a city is way excessive
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Post by DigsFossils-n-Knives on Jan 6, 2017 17:42:22 GMT
I think that if you are carrying a knife and you aren't using it for every day tasks, It can be seen as you looking for an opportunity. In a court of law I think that would speak to motive. Carrying a box cutter though is not terribly suspicious. Carry a kerambit though, that is recognised as a fighting knife and you would be hard pressed to argue that it was for self defense or for every day carry. Knives are an incredibly offensive and "scary" weapon to most people. A box cutter though, the right type, can be used defensively without employing the blade. If you want a self defense weapon, get a kubotan and learn how to effectively use it. I agree. And a walking cane also makes a great self defense weapon -- my son's dojo had classes where they trained with a simple cane. No court of police issues walking with a cane.
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 6, 2017 21:47:56 GMT
I think that if you are carrying a knife and you aren't using it for every day tasks, It can be seen as you looking for an opportunity. In a court of law I think that would speak to motive. Carrying a box cutter though is not terribly suspicious. Carry a kerambit though, that is recognised as a fighting knife and you would be hard pressed to argue that it was for self defense or for every day carry. Knives are an incredibly offensive and "scary" weapon to most people. A box cutter though, the right type, can be used defensively without employing the blade. If you want a self defense weapon, get a kubotan and learn how to effectively use it. I agree. And a walking cane also makes a great self defense weapon -- my son's dojo had classes where they trained with a simple cane. No court of police issues walking with a cane. People underestimate the effectiveness of a single piece rattan walking cane, especially one of the ones with the hook handle. I've been looking for a good blackthorn walking cane but I can see how that would be considered a weapon as those things are mean looking.
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Post by gandermail on Jan 7, 2017 0:11:54 GMT
OK, so it's not impossible but it's damned unlikely I'll be getting into any knife fights. But in the real world I do occasionally, say, cut a box open. I neither want nor need some huge Bowie knife on my hip for that. Besides which my cane is specially made for gigantic hairy ogres like me and is long and thick and metal so if worse came to worse I'd sooner swing that at somebody.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 0:40:29 GMT
Folders here are limited to 3 1/2" if pocketed/cocealed. No limit for fixed blades carried openly except no daggers. walking around with a big knife carried openly at a mall, probably cause for creating a disturbance. In the woods, no problem whatsoever. Switchblades ok but still limited as to blade length for concealed carry.
I have carried a variety of fixed and folding knives exceeding legality and as late as 1980 had once walked through the halls of Logan airport with a bowie tucked into the back of my pants(I had literally not thought a thing about it until realizing I had just walked through a detector (probably turned off) That was a six inch blade.
An SAK soldier model is my regular edc.
Too many others at home to list but some big scary looking stuff. If I had to reduce to one "big" fixed blade it would probably be my #2-8 Randall or my Deleon
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 0:49:16 GMT
An anecdote of 1970-1971 Cambridge Massachusetts A grinder friend (Paladin) was doing a brisk business grinding and hafting a slew of 2" skinning fixed blade knives for the heads frequently visiting some of the clubs. Most often lignum vitae grips and Linda doing some very good leather work.
Marty Rosenfield (Paladin) later ended up in California grinding blades on curbs and doing art for Easy Rider magazine. Ralph Bone was his idol but he had style of his own. Seems like yesterday sometimes.
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Post by bloodwraith on Jan 7, 2017 1:05:17 GMT
If I were reduced to just one big fixed blade it would be my custom digs recurve bowie.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Jan 7, 2017 6:17:52 GMT
From a self-defense perspective, it's like people are proud of having a box cutter From a combat perspective, fighting against another knife or in a melee situation, longer is much better in my opinion. That's if you already have the knife out and and are aware of the attack though. Self defense knife... I'm kind of with everyone else here: a knife isn't necessarily a great option for self defense (unless you can't carry a gun). Instead of carrying a knife for backup, I'd probably just carry a second gun. A knife may be an option as a back-up self defense weapon if you're looking for something lighter than a gun though. But then there's all the paranoia and stigma associated with knives.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Jan 8, 2017 8:25:32 GMT
From a self-defense perspective, it's like people are proud of having a box cutter Why someone will chose an EDC based on self-defense capabilities of a knife? If he is paranoiac the answer is obvious though. Or if they live in a bad area, which is prone to violence.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 8, 2017 8:37:21 GMT
If the bad guys take away your knife and use it against you, a tiny knife is saver. And no crossguard! Without a crossguard it's much easier to pull it out of your ...
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Post by arfoo on Jan 8, 2017 10:29:12 GMT
It's better be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in war
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 8, 2017 10:35:20 GMT
Not for the garden!
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