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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 18:34:14 GMT
I'm a beginner to this hobby but already want to design my own sword and have somebody make it for me. I plan on learning as much as I can before I order it and I certainly have a lot to learn including the basics like the different types of steel. For now I have a real basic question. I am loooking for a ball park figure on how much a custom sword would cost. I realize there are a ton of variables and my question may be too difficult to answer but thought I'd try anyways. What would be a wild guess as to a minimum cost to have a medieval style 50 inch long 40 inch blade made, without an extravagant handle that would add a lot to the cost? Again, just a wild ball park figure. Am I looking at a minimum of a thousand dollars?
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 25, 2016 18:37:53 GMT
more then $1000 dollars
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 18:54:44 GMT
I'm a beginner to this hobby but already want to design my own sword and have somebody make it for me. I plan on learning as much as I can before I order it and I certainly have a lot to learn including the basics like the different types of steel. For now I have a real basic question. I am loooking for a ball park figure on how much a custom sword would cost. I realize there are a ton of variables and my question may be too difficult to answer but thought I'd try anyways. What would be a wild guess as to a minimum cost to have a medieval style 50 inch long 40 inch blade made, without an extravagant handle that would add a lot to the cost? Again, just a wild ball park figure. Am I looking at a minimum of a thousand dollars? Well, I would recommend saving up to $2000-$3000 to be safe enough... But a $1000-$2000 figure is necessary. This coming from someone who has been saving up for a custom.
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 25, 2016 19:18:49 GMT
i would say about $1500 or so with very basic fittings, more extravagant fittings will be $3000-$6000, a quality custom scabbard will add $300-$900 to the price
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Nov 25, 2016 19:21:36 GMT
40in blade 50in overall $1500.00 doesn't come close. That a really big I think over size sword. Just how big are you.
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Post by Croccifixio on Nov 25, 2016 19:21:43 GMT
Depends on who's doing the custom work. As with anything, there are ranges. For below $1000, you can actually get a decent 50 inch sword made in an Eastern European country. Navigating their sites will be a bit of a problem of course, but options abound at that price range. Petr Regenyei, Vladimir Cervenka, Pavel Moc, are the most popular ones but there are others if you know where to look. Similarly, you can go a bit lower in fact and get one from a Chinese forge, but that's more uncertain. I for one would rather go with a trusted model like a Hanwei Tinker Great Sword of War and have it customized instead. There are other custom forges I know of in the Philippines at that pricr range and might look at getting one before the end of the year. But IMO at that price range, you should try to get a customized bare blade from someone in the forums. An Albion moat blade would be a perfect project for someone like Wes Beem ( Lonely Wolf Forge), Tom Kinder, Lyndle Driggers ( L Driggers (fallen)) or Lukas MG ( Lukas MG (chenessfan)) and might stay within the budget. Otherwise just save around $3000.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 19:42:42 GMT
What a great forum this is! Look at all these responses in such a short time. I do want to stay in the United States and would favor places within the northeast US so I could visit it but that it wouldn't be a deal breaker if I couldn't. I live in northwest Pennsylvania by Lake Erie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 20:50:21 GMT
40in blade 50in overall $1500.00 doesn't come close. That a really big I think over size sword. Just how big are you. My United Cutlery Anduril is 53 inches overall with a 40 inch blade so that' why I picked those numbers. How much does the type of steel affect the price? I don't really care about it because I won't be cutting with it so I suppose I could cut (no pun intended) costs that way.
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 25, 2016 22:26:20 GMT
40in blade 50in overall $1500.00 doesn't come close. That a really big I think over size sword. Just how big are you. My United Cutlery Anduril is 53 inches overall with a 40 inch blade so that' why I picked those numbers. How much does the type of steel affect the price? I don't really care about it because I won't be cutting with it so I suppose I could cut (no pun intended) costs that way. the type of steel affects the price a lot, Pattern Welded stuff will be much more expensive, go with 1060 or something like that, if u just want something to look at you can go stainless
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 0:40:36 GMT
Is there a disadvantage to going stainless? Does it discolor or anything over the years? Do most swordmakers give you the option of the kind of steel you want?
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 26, 2016 2:05:11 GMT
stainless swords are just to look at and display, do not hit anything with it as it could shatter and hurt you really bad, you dont need a custom for those are they are generally pretty cheap with the most expensive stainless steel swords being under $500
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Post by pgandy on Nov 26, 2016 2:40:53 GMT
Unless you want a 40" blade wall hanger you might want to seriously reconsider a ss blade.
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 26, 2016 5:57:01 GMT
definitely dont get a stainless steel blade if you plan on doing anything with it, one of the only benefits of a stainless steel blade is that it is more resistant to rust so you dont have to maintain it as much as a carbon blade
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 6:04:27 GMT
40in blade 50in overall $1500.00 doesn't come close. That a really big I think over size sword. Just how big are you. My United Cutlery Anduril is 53 inches overall with a 40 inch blade so that' why I picked those numbers. How much does the type of steel affect the price? I don't really care about it because I won't be cutting with it so I suppose I could cut (no pun intended) costs that way. Steel actually is mist if the price I believe. Fittings can add to the price, but only if they are highly elaborate and made of the more expensive metals. There are many types of steels. Summing up, you have your high carbon steels (1095, 1060 etc.), the pattern welded and the speciality steels. The price also increases in that pattern. High carbon mono-steel blades do not tend to cause huge increases in price and are very good if properly heat-treated. They have been used on most of the swords being produced and hold a ballad of their own. Pattern-welded steels can vary, from simple mixes to the more exotic designs and patterns. An example of a VERY VERY exotic choice in Pattern welded steel is Glock's Damascus from Germany (Thanks to James Fang of LongShip Armory for the information), who makes these pattern welded steels from barrels of WWII era tanks. They can also range in price, from only a bit more expensive than mono-steels to as much as speciality steels. The third type of steel is Speciality Steel, like CPM-3V, S7, L6, etc. They have a reputation of their own in the sword world. They can highly range in price, according to ACTUALLY to makes the sword. They require very special heat treates, so only very learned blade smiths use them, like DigsFossils-n-Knives, L Driggers (fallen), John Lundemo, Howard Clark among others. They will cost you and aren't the most pretty to look at (depending on your perspective), but they can give you performance and use like no other.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 6:06:13 GMT
Oh, and just so you know, there are also many others that can handle speciality steels beautifully. I just named the people that popped up suddenly.
Beware of wasting money on SS. A custom sword in that is a waste of money in my opinion.
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Post by Deepbluedave on Nov 26, 2016 6:41:34 GMT
As someone new to swords my advice would be to forget the customs for now, go to Albion's swords site and see what you like the look of in your price range, you will get a real sword for your money that will hold its value and get you the most back if you change your mind and have to sell it in the future, customs can be a tricky resell. if you like big swords get a maximilian it is close to the size you asked for, I have one it is awesome handles beautifully and will be ok to cut with. www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/nextgen/sword-landesknecht-maximilian.htmwww.albion-swords.com/
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Nov 26, 2016 13:16:19 GMT
What kind of custom are you looking for? If it is fairly simple design the you can probably get something pretty close to it already, like Deepbluedave suggested. As Croccifixio said there are great smiths in Eastern Europe who can make you a custom for very desirable prices, however as you are limited to US smiths then prices will be higher as cost of living is so much higher in USA. You can get basic plain sword around you desired dimensions in Hanwei Bastard for 225$: kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SH2250N&name=Hanwei+Bastard+Sword+%2D+AntiquedDel Tin has very plain looking two hander around your desired size for c. 500$: kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=DT2158&name=Del+Tin+15th+Century+Two+Handed+SwordA&A GBS would be around and somewhat similar to desired size c. 1200$: arms-n-armor.com/sword081.htmlThen there are Albion twohanders as previously recommended There are many smiths in USA who can make you a good custom sword. However as you say you are a beginner I would recommend planning a sword together with the smith and being open for his critique and suggestions on the design.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 14:50:22 GMT
Since I have no plans to ever hit anything with it and stainless steel is the easiest to maintain and less prone to rust that sounds like the way to go. I have something very specific in mind and have only made a crude drawing of it, I'm certain I wouldn't find what I want in a sword that has already been made....well, I'm not positive....but I have looked at a ton of swords on a dozens of sites. Thanks so much to everyone for educating me.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 26, 2016 15:15:31 GMT
I'm not sure but it might be a problem to find a custom maker who works with ss.
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Post by DigsFossils-n-Knives on Nov 26, 2016 15:57:57 GMT
Since I have no plans to ever hit anything with it and stainless steel is the easiest to maintain and less prone to rust that sounds like the way to go. I have something very specific in mind and have only made a crude drawing of it, I'm certain I wouldn't find what I want in a sword that has already been made....well, I'm not positive....but I have looked at a ton of swords on a dozens of sites. Thanks so much to everyone for educating me. So you are willing to pay about $1000 for a custom sword made out of cheap stainless because you have no plans to use it. When you can get one for slightly more and (1) be able to use it if you wanted to or need to (2) be able to sell it and get most of your money back or more. Hmmm... The cost of the steel is not a major factor in the cost of the overall sword. Why not just get a steel good enough for a sword?
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