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Post by harrybeck on Oct 15, 2016 15:58:57 GMT
I would not buy another python, even though I collect detective specials. The python goes out of time easily and there few smith's that are qualified to work on them. The lockwork is delicate and prone to parts wear and breakage.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 16:29:58 GMT
I would not buy another python, even though I collect detective specials. The python goes out of time easily and there few smith's that are qualified to work on them. The lockwork is delicate and prone to parts wear and breakage. Many experts here in Pakistan. There are actually weapon MAKERS in Pakistan too. They make some damn fine ones, kinda like how Sialkot is famous for sport equipment...
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Post by harrybeck on Oct 15, 2016 16:49:09 GMT
i know, i have seen my share of Paki made Makarov's. some better than others.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 16:57:46 GMT
i know, i have seen my share of Paki made Makarov's. some better than others. Thanks. Good to know your experience was great. We are already quite infamous in the sword department😜 If you know where to look, you can find great weapons(pistols, rifles etc). I visited the market in January, and was surprised that the b-market scene had a freakin' level 2 grenade launcher mod for sale. No thank you. I would definitely not want to get caught with that. But you can get stuff is what I am saying.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 17:02:20 GMT
Sorry for derailing the thread. What I am saying is if I had to go revolver, I prefer Python. But I think new organic 1911's are awesome. I used a few and they are SPLENDID.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Oct 15, 2016 17:34:12 GMT
a Pylon is a great revolver just not real durable compared to the S&W or Ruger. Also Pylon aren't made anymore a good one will cost you over $1000.00.
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Post by harrybeck on Oct 15, 2016 17:41:30 GMT
Closers to $2000 now ad I've seen them sell in good shape for 3500.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Oct 15, 2016 17:51:16 GMT
Can buy a lot of good used S&W or Rugers for that amount of money. Haven't been keeping up on Pylons lately.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 17:54:34 GMT
A good python will cost upward of 3000
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Post by wazikan on Oct 15, 2016 19:31:14 GMT
Match it up with a 357 lever action and your a happy man
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Post by howler on Oct 15, 2016 20:23:04 GMT
a Pylon is a great revolver just not real durable compared to the S&W or Ruger. Also Pylon aren't made anymore a good one will cost you over $1000.00. A lot of the S&W go for over a grand. As others have already pointed out, the Python are way over 2G, and (for various reasons, also stated) mainly good as a collectible.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Oct 16, 2016 11:27:43 GMT
I have a 6 inch blued gp100 and I love it. Got 180 grain power-shok Jhp in mine. Agreed the GP 100 is a great all purpose gun
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Post by Alexander on Oct 17, 2016 10:10:43 GMT
While the 357 is not a bad revolver and if you were only interested in two legged defense. I would opt for the 5 1/2 bbl Ruger Redhawk in 44mag. Its bark is worse then its bite ( on the user end anyway) Bigger heavier bullets and you can shoot 44 spl 200gr defense loads to 44mag 340gr loads that will do a better job with the 4 legged defense. Clean and oil the Redhawk once in awhile and it will last several life times. Their durability is unmatched. My wife is 5'8" 130lbs and can fire it without issue.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Oct 17, 2016 12:57:06 GMT
I have the Ruger Redhawk 44m mag 5 1/2in, it is overkill for defense and way to heavy to carry concealed. Great your wide can shoot it without issue must be light loads, like it or not 44mag kicks hard.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 17:10:47 GMT
Durability is a hallmark of Ruger revolvers, regardless of caliber. I have both Ruger and S&W, the actions on my Smiths are just a bit smoother than the Rugers. Both are good, trustworthy guns. I prefer the .357 for a general round defense. The .44 is is OK, but like L Driggers said, it's a bit heavy to carry routinely. Hey, I even have Taurus snubby in 45LC... I still wonder occasionally why I bought that thing...
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Post by Alexander on Oct 17, 2016 17:34:00 GMT
I have the Ruger Redhawk 44m mag 5 1/2in, it is overkill for defense and way to heavy to carry concealed. Great your wide can shoot it without issue must be light loads, like it or not 44mag kicks hard. Nope full house factory mag loads. Handling recoil is technique. Dont see where the op stated anything about concealed carry. He wanted something that packs a wallop without breaking his wrists and is durable, Redhawk 44mag fills that perfectly. I would still prefer reduced 44 loads over full house 357.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Oct 17, 2016 17:36:32 GMT
I know it's a technique I have fired 1,000 of round through a 44mag. The things still kick hard, harder than most people can handle. I would not recommend one to a beginner.
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Post by darth on Oct 17, 2016 17:38:47 GMT
While I like semi autos alot and prefer them for most applications, for the OP a .357 chambered revolver is absolutely a good choice.
Get a .357 revolver in 4,5 or 6" barrel. Make sure you have good sights, good grips. Also get a .22LR or better yet 22Mag ( so you can shoot 22 Mag and LR) revolver so you can practice more on the cheap with light recoil. Do the bulk of your fundamental practice with a 22, use your full sized gun about 1/4 of the time you shoot;Save money, shoot more!
Then consider a .22 rifle, a full sized, big bore rifle ( In Canada Rule 303!) and a shotgun ( 12g, don;t mess with .410, 20g any of that until you have a 12.). Handguns are backup weapons, long arms are preferred for defense and looking to shoot something. :-)
Enjoy shooting!
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Post by LeMal on Oct 17, 2016 18:24:08 GMT
Second the thinking on a 22 (or 22 Mag). Though if you're thinking "survival" mode--very light, but more use in hunting food than self defense--think of a tiny rifle, like the Cricket or AR-7, in addition to your revolver.
Seriously, in a "apocalypse" you'll *probably* be wanting to head for the hills rather than be around other possibly dangerous folk (and if you are, no weapon of yours, certainly any revolver, is very sure against being almost certainly outnumbered, likely outgunned too.) If you're in a "safe area," putting food on the table, frequently and reliably, especially small game, will be more of a concern. (And having something with a smaller report and less likely to draw unwanted attention will be nice too.)
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Post by howler on Oct 17, 2016 19:27:01 GMT
While the 357 is not a bad revolver and if you were only interested in two legged defense. I would opt for the 5 1/2 bbl Ruger Redhawk in 44mag. Its bark is worse then its bite ( on the user end anyway) Bigger heavier bullets and you can shoot 44 spl 200gr defense loads to 44mag 340gr loads that will do a better job with the 4 legged defense. Clean and oil the Redhawk once in awhile and it will last several life times. Their durability is unmatched. My wife is 5'8" 130lbs and can fire it without issue. 44mag is MUCH better against Brown bear. If your in Alaska it (or .454 Casull) would be a must have.
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