Gladitoria Pommel Throwing: The Truth
May 27, 2016 7:50:53 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 7:50:53 GMT
First of all, the thread that started this experimental call: Pommel Throwing Gladitoria KK5013
Hey Guys! Finally I am able to post this experiment. For those who are not familiar with this experiment, Please go through the thread mentioned above and peruse it in great detail.
This is gonna be even more boring than the Desiccant Thread, so bear with me. I have tried to lighten the mood to the best of my abilities. But if any one wants to throw out any suggestions(Pun Intended), they are highly welcome. Onward to the way to rightly end............................
+What Is Gladitoria?
Instead of launching into details of something I scarcely knew before researching, I will quote the references that contributed to my knowledge:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiatoria
wiktenauer.com/wiki/Gladiatoria_(MS_KK5013)
And various others that I am not even bothering to quote here since you need a very avid translation service to get the sites in some from of English. Luckily for me, a very enthusiastic guy I met while on a summer camp to Beijing helped me translate them.
+The Photo For Reference
Thought I should leave a very high quality photo of the page quoted in the original thread. I will be referring to this maybe:
+The Experts:
There were many people who helped me standardize a lot of things. In other words, they helped me put control to some of the variables.
Sir Iftikhar Goraya, Ph.D Physics
Sir Qazi Sarfraz, Biology
Sir Arshad Hussain Gohar, Inorganic Chemistry
Dave, a dumb and deaf BlackSmith of Medieval Armor and other General BlackSmithry
My Friend, who insisted I put him on this list for supplying the Brawn(Please!)
+The Topic:
To Investigate the effectiveness of unscrewing and chucking a pommel at your vigilant and bloodthirsty opponent in the middle of a fight to the death.
+Null Hypothesis:
This method of fighting has no significant disadvantage or advantage in a fight
+The Apparatus:
1- Egg Shaped pommels(metal balls, really) ranging from 100g to 1.5kg
2- A rudimentary set of experimental sheets of roughly shaped steel to act as armor and helmet, pretty heavy
3- A hell lot of Paper Tape
4- Cotton for padding(Stolen...i mean Borrowed from my younger sister's Stuff Animal Collection. I don't hope to live long after she discovers the blasphemy, Thai Martial Artist or not)
5- A camera(destroyed by my brother before I could obtain the Video and Pics of the experiment, he shouldn't hope to live long too)
6- First Aid Kit
7- Makeshift Weapons
+The Procedure/s:
-Start by timing the approximate times for removing different masses of pommels that are screwed in three different styles.
-Getting armored and assuming positions as seen in the Pictured, while Holding a long stick and the SLO blades modified to accommodate the pommels, at different distances.
-Getting Ended Rightly.
+The Analysis:
My friend was the one who timed the removal three times each to obtain the average. We used my friend's SLO Doppelhänder that was modified to attach the pommels by the ever-friendly and enthusiastic Dave.
Dave is an awesome, if somewhat silent, guy. I learned to sign to communicate with him and he makes awesome whatevers from metal. Not a bladesmith, but works on prototyping miniatures and scale models of army weaponry and buildings etc from metal by hand. Really gifted, he lost his hearing in a suicide bombing near my Cantt's Armed Forces Factory. I dragged him and his wife to the hospital and we have been the best pals since then. He slowly stopped speaking and learned to sign instead. His wife survived with very minor damage to her left knee which healed after some 2 weeks.
The times were seen to have no positive correlation with the masses. The THREE TYPES of screwing methods tried were full threads, semi-threaded and snap-ons(though that may not be historic).
The times according to screw methods were decreased respectively.
I got armored and used a long stick to replicate the spear. My friend held a similar stick while unscrewing the pommel.
WITH FULL THREADS: At distances upto ten feet, he was unable to even get the pommel unscrewed before I was on his head. This included me in a heavy packed sheet of metal. He was also unable to block any attack through the method outlined in the picture.
At a distance of 12-13 feet he got it off but had no time to get ready.
At 14+ he was able to throw it with some effectiveness.
WITH SEMI-THREADS: 7+ feet, it is off. 9+ able to throw.
WITH SNAP-ONS: Effectiveness observed at upto 5+ feet.
Next, I observed the effect of getting hit with the pommels. With Paddings, the effect was not very daunting, just a slight thud that didn't slow me down any. Without padding in the sheet, the story was entirely different. At 600g I started getting that oomph factor. At 1kg, I was down. Yup, it hurt, bad. The resonance in the metal stunned me to atleast 5-6 seconds, enough for my friend to END ME RIGHTLY.
+The Verdict:
The experiment was a lot more complicated and intense than what I have described. I had to keep everything simple here. Any thing you need Elucidated will be detailed.
Anyways, the verdict is that the technique is of highly limited use. There are too many factors that need to be "Ideal" for any effectiveness. However, at the rare circumstances where the technique is of use, it is of somewhat effect, depending upon the factors related to opponent.
Hey Guys! Finally I am able to post this experiment. For those who are not familiar with this experiment, Please go through the thread mentioned above and peruse it in great detail.
This is gonna be even more boring than the Desiccant Thread, so bear with me. I have tried to lighten the mood to the best of my abilities. But if any one wants to throw out any suggestions(Pun Intended), they are highly welcome. Onward to the way to rightly end............................
+What Is Gladitoria?
Instead of launching into details of something I scarcely knew before researching, I will quote the references that contributed to my knowledge:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiatoria
wiktenauer.com/wiki/Gladiatoria_(MS_KK5013)
And various others that I am not even bothering to quote here since you need a very avid translation service to get the sites in some from of English. Luckily for me, a very enthusiastic guy I met while on a summer camp to Beijing helped me translate them.
+The Photo For Reference
Thought I should leave a very high quality photo of the page quoted in the original thread. I will be referring to this maybe:
+The Experts:
There were many people who helped me standardize a lot of things. In other words, they helped me put control to some of the variables.
Sir Iftikhar Goraya, Ph.D Physics
Sir Qazi Sarfraz, Biology
Sir Arshad Hussain Gohar, Inorganic Chemistry
Dave, a dumb and deaf BlackSmith of Medieval Armor and other General BlackSmithry
My Friend, who insisted I put him on this list for supplying the Brawn(Please!)
+The Topic:
To Investigate the effectiveness of unscrewing and chucking a pommel at your vigilant and bloodthirsty opponent in the middle of a fight to the death.
+Null Hypothesis:
This method of fighting has no significant disadvantage or advantage in a fight
+The Apparatus:
1- Egg Shaped pommels(metal balls, really) ranging from 100g to 1.5kg
2- A rudimentary set of experimental sheets of roughly shaped steel to act as armor and helmet, pretty heavy
3- A hell lot of Paper Tape
4- Cotton for padding(Stolen...i mean Borrowed from my younger sister's Stuff Animal Collection. I don't hope to live long after she discovers the blasphemy, Thai Martial Artist or not)
5- A camera(destroyed by my brother before I could obtain the Video and Pics of the experiment, he shouldn't hope to live long too)
6- First Aid Kit
7- Makeshift Weapons
+The Procedure/s:
-Start by timing the approximate times for removing different masses of pommels that are screwed in three different styles.
-Getting armored and assuming positions as seen in the Pictured, while Holding a long stick and the SLO blades modified to accommodate the pommels, at different distances.
-Getting Ended Rightly.
+The Analysis:
My friend was the one who timed the removal three times each to obtain the average. We used my friend's SLO Doppelhänder that was modified to attach the pommels by the ever-friendly and enthusiastic Dave.
Dave is an awesome, if somewhat silent, guy. I learned to sign to communicate with him and he makes awesome whatevers from metal. Not a bladesmith, but works on prototyping miniatures and scale models of army weaponry and buildings etc from metal by hand. Really gifted, he lost his hearing in a suicide bombing near my Cantt's Armed Forces Factory. I dragged him and his wife to the hospital and we have been the best pals since then. He slowly stopped speaking and learned to sign instead. His wife survived with very minor damage to her left knee which healed after some 2 weeks.
The times were seen to have no positive correlation with the masses. The THREE TYPES of screwing methods tried were full threads, semi-threaded and snap-ons(though that may not be historic).
The times according to screw methods were decreased respectively.
I got armored and used a long stick to replicate the spear. My friend held a similar stick while unscrewing the pommel.
WITH FULL THREADS: At distances upto ten feet, he was unable to even get the pommel unscrewed before I was on his head. This included me in a heavy packed sheet of metal. He was also unable to block any attack through the method outlined in the picture.
At a distance of 12-13 feet he got it off but had no time to get ready.
At 14+ he was able to throw it with some effectiveness.
WITH SEMI-THREADS: 7+ feet, it is off. 9+ able to throw.
WITH SNAP-ONS: Effectiveness observed at upto 5+ feet.
Next, I observed the effect of getting hit with the pommels. With Paddings, the effect was not very daunting, just a slight thud that didn't slow me down any. Without padding in the sheet, the story was entirely different. At 600g I started getting that oomph factor. At 1kg, I was down. Yup, it hurt, bad. The resonance in the metal stunned me to atleast 5-6 seconds, enough for my friend to END ME RIGHTLY.
+The Verdict:
The experiment was a lot more complicated and intense than what I have described. I had to keep everything simple here. Any thing you need Elucidated will be detailed.
Anyways, the verdict is that the technique is of highly limited use. There are too many factors that need to be "Ideal" for any effectiveness. However, at the rare circumstances where the technique is of use, it is of somewhat effect, depending upon the factors related to opponent.