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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 19:24:42 GMT
I recently found this little guy in a local gun show for c.70$. As soon as I recognized it I snatched it because it is rather scarce. The type 25 sword is less known than its successor the type 32 cavalry sword and therefore less documented except here. It has brass fittings, a very simple wooden grip and the scabbard lock is located at the top. The 30.5''/78cm blade is much slimmer and easier to handle than the type 32 but I suspect it was also more fragile in combat. It was in service from 1892 until 1899 when the other model replaced it. Scabbard lock and release button Blade shape The type 25 next to an officer kyu-gunto
Extra pics in my collection section.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 19:56:53 GMT
Nice blades! Where'd you score the kyu gunto? I've been looking for one in the sub $400. How much did you pay, if you don't mind me asking
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Post by Uhlan on Jan 23, 2016 22:50:50 GMT
Nice catch Pino! $ 70 with the scabbard is a steal of a steal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 1:02:16 GMT
Tks gents! Bennett, I found it a sometime last year at a Canadian website called Collector's Guild, the price was 600CAD (c.450USD). It's hard to find them at less than 400 but with much patience and reliable contacts nothing is impossible.
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Post by Afoo on Jan 24, 2016 4:59:50 GMT
I recently found this little guy in a local gun show for c.70$. As soon as I recognized it I snatched it because it is rather scarce. The type 25 sword is less known than its successor the type 32 cavalry sword and therefore less documented except here. It has brass fittings, a very simple wooden grip and the scabbard lock is located at the top. The 30.5''/78cm blade is much slimmer and easier to handle than the type 32 but I suspect it was also more fragile in combat. It was in service from 1892 until 1899 when the other model replaced it. Just curious - what are the stats on the blade? I have a type 32, and I measured the blade as being 6mm at the base, tapering to 4mm 1' from the tip. The blade is 32.5 inches long, with a PoB of 8 inches. Also, am very envious - quite a steal
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 1:49:27 GMT
Here are the stats:
5mm at base, 4mm at middle and 3mm at the point. POB is located at 5''/ 13cm the blade width at ricasso is 1''/ 2.5cm
So yeah, the blade is shorter but has more taper and better balance too. I wonder why the type 32 was made that heavier.
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Post by Afoo on Jan 25, 2016 3:47:52 GMT
5mm to 3mm seems rather thin for a cavalry sabre. I suspect the hypothesis you propose at the beginning (issues with durability and toughness in the field) was the main reason. Does the blade feel overly flexible or flimsy in the hand? Mine feels like a great big crowbar, though its as stiff as a rail iron.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 21:33:47 GMT
It is thin indeed and feels more like a trusty combat officer sword but not strong enough for trooper use; the blade is lively and more flexible than the type 32 that is indeed very clunky when compared to this one.
Here are some comparative stats with other Japanese swords:
Kyu-Gunto stats: 6mm at base, 5mm at middle and 4mm at the point. POB is located at 4.5''/ 11cm the blade width at ricasso is 1''/ 2.5cm blade length: 27.5''/ 70.5cm
1940 NCO Gunto stats:
6mm at base, 5mm at middle and 4mm at the point.
POB is located at 5''/ 13cm
the blade width at ricasso is 1 1/8''/ 2.9cm
blade length: 27.5''/ 70.5cm
There is a certain similarity with the 3 models, except the NCO gunto is held with 2 hands and has a shorter but wider blade.
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Post by bfoo2 on Jan 30, 2016 4:16:14 GMT
Interesting sword. I really like the top-mounted scabbard latch. Oh, and the presence of actual taper. I've handled Afoo's Type 32, and as he says, it's a crowbar. Seeing as we live a similar area, Pino, perhaps I might run into you at the next area gun-show! (Someone's gotta stop you from finding all these easy steals! )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 21:06:23 GMT
Game on mate, it would add challenge to these gun shows that are slowly getting interesting (I found this one, my friend got a 1796 LC scabbard for a mere 20$)!
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Post by bfoo2 on Feb 1, 2016 3:52:58 GMT
Game on mate, it would add challenge to these gun shows that are slowly getting interesting (I found this one, my friend got a 1796 LC scabbard for a mere 20$)! That's nuts! Prices the way they are these days, you could hardly get a PHOTO of a 1796LC for 20 bucks! I'll have to check the calendar for the next gun show, but the Canadian dollar the way it is now, leaves us little choice but to buy local.
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