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Post by Suho on Sept 23, 2015 20:41:24 GMT
I just want to respond to one part of the OP, which is: "Paul finances the site via sales made at the SBG Sword Store. If attendance and sales are directed away from our site, it will eventually close."
Respectfully, I don't even think there is a direct link to this store on the site currently, or if there is I haven't seen it. There used to be prominent ads on the previous site, and frankly I WISH THERE WERE such ads here now. I just haven't seen any. It would make more sense for Paul to put those back up.
Thanks.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Sept 24, 2015 0:24:23 GMT
There is indeed a set of rules and guidelines, my friend. We've added to and altered them over time to meet new standards and requirements, and they are meant to be followed as they are at any given time. I am not sure what you are finding ambiguous about any of this. I posted, with examples, then posted in a more blunt manner. Then William posted it again in even more direct wording.
We have two pages of this because there has been discussion and suggestions, as well as questions. Failing to engage in discussion or consider suggestions is a poor way to run things and inhibits growth and improvement. Failing to explain what some find confusing is an extremely poor way to enforce rules and standards, and sets a very bad example of how we wish this forum to operate. If the continuing of this type of back and forth disturbs you for some reason, simply opt out. If you have more questions, please ask them and we will attempt to clarify, and thank you for your suggestions thus far.
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Post by admin on Sept 24, 2015 4:47:35 GMT
Basically, we are just trying to nip some behaviours in the bud before the get out of hand. The basic principle is to avoid threads devolving as follows:
OP: "I am thinking of buying the X sword from X. What do you guys think - are there any better options?"
M&V1: "Don't buy it from X, buy it from us! We are $10 cheaper!"
M&V2: "We sell it for $25 less than M&V1. LINK."
Member1: "Here are some similar swords at site Y you might want to check out. I review them at my new site, Sword Buyers Guide.org - we have a forum too! No rules either, so forget this stupid place and come on over! LINK"
Member2: "The X sword sucks. Member 1 is a tool. Everyone knows the best swords in the world are all to be found at site Z. LINK."
member 3: "I second site Z. The sword X and site X are crap. Site Z is the best!"
M&V1: "We sell the same swords as site Z. Site Z sucks. PM me for a special deal!"
M&V3: "We will beat any price by 10%, PM me for details"
M&V4: "These other vendors charge too much. I have a new hobby site that sells all these swords for $5 over wholesale because I work full time and can undercut people who have staff and stock and invested in the industry. Suckers. Here is my LINK"
M&V2: "Ok, we are having a going out of business sale. Sword Z and X at $50 below wholesale! We need to sell all teh stock to pay off our debts. LINK"
M&V4: "Don't trust M&V2, he will just take your money and won't ship anything because he is going out of business. Here is our link again. LINK."
M&V2: "M&V4 is a liar and a cheat. It is a genuine sale. We need to get out of the industry. All stock needs to go. LINK"
Member 2: "Site Z is having a sale too! 50% off everything! LINK"
Member 3: "BUMP. I second what member 2 said. LINK"
New Member: "I am the owner of site Z. Only our swords are real - all the others are cheap fakes. Our swords are made from Super Steel Z. They are totally indestructable and can cut a scarf in mid-air!"
Member 2: "Mods, give New Member Z M&V status! His swords are the BEST!"
Member 3: "Yeah, what Member 2 said. Every other sword sucks. I hate every sword exept his. PS - check my new review of 10 swords I got sent from Site Z. Mention my name and get 10% off and my comission will be put to good use too! LINK."
M&V3: "We will beat that price and raise you a new super steel! member 3, are you interested in receiving some free swords for review? PM me for details!"
Member 3: "PM sent!!"
Ok, a bit exaggerated - but what I am trying to do is prevent every thread from turning into a price war between M&Vs that will, if left unchecked, gut the industry and turn every thread into "Eat at Joes". We have seen it before, and don't want to see it again..
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