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Post by bigpete on Sept 5, 2015 7:43:31 GMT
Ha ha its funny isn't it I swear I can't bench press as much as you and am no where near fit,but I'd find that draw weight pretty easy to deal with LOL but keep at it mate you'll definitely get there
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Sept 5, 2015 7:48:43 GMT
50 shots in your first session that is real good. What's your draw length, my is 32in so a 50lb bow is appox 65lb for me.
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Post by Paul on Sept 5, 2015 7:52:59 GMT
I'm drawing about 30" so I'd guess I'd end up somewhere in the mid 50lbs. Archery really is a different group of muscles, a group that I seem to not have been using much
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Post by bigpete on Sept 5, 2015 8:02:02 GMT
Ha ha glad you bought 50# now hey LOL. Just go easy at first mate. Driggs,are you 7 feet tall or do you anchor by your ear or something ?
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Sept 5, 2015 9:32:38 GMT
monkey arms, not easy for me to find arrows, mostly have to custom order them. I can get by with using a 30in arrow.
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Post by ineffableone on Sept 5, 2015 12:37:01 GMT
I'm drawing about 30" so I'd guess I'd end up somewhere in the mid 50lbs. Archery really is a different group of muscles, a group that I seem to not have been using much I tried to warn you about that. It isn't just a different group of muscles, it is using muscles in ways they don't normally get used. Pulling and stretching directions they normally don't get large strain. It is also a combo of muscles that are not commonly used together so they are less used to working as a team. It would be wise to pick up a lower poundage to use for awhile wile you practice to build good form. If you can't hold and aim with 50 lbs, you are likely going to develop some bad habits in your form that will later be hard to unlearn. Over powered bows tend to create a lot of bad form in beginners as they try and compensate for that heavy poundage.
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Post by Paul on Sept 5, 2015 22:27:55 GMT
Definitely, but I'm looking forward to the workout  Did a bit of a workout last night and I could feel these new archery muscles in my left arm during the bench. Once daylight savings starts all be able to work on these every other day. Know what you mean about bad habits and I'm very conscious of it, I might have explained the aiming issue as worse than it is. At this stage for me drawing 50lbs to my cheek and holding for say 8+ seconds starts to fatigue, I'm only really aiming to 1-3 seconds at the moment. Agree about having the 2 bows (maybe more) light and heavy and to this end I'm already looking..... www.archery-forum.com/showthread.php?44514-WTB-Hoyt-Buffalo-or-W-amp-W-RCX-17
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Post by ineffableone on Sept 5, 2015 22:58:26 GMT
Definitely, but I'm looking forward to the workout  Did a bit of a workout last night and I could feel these new archery muscles in my left arm during the bench. Once daylight savings starts all be able to work on these every other day. Know what you mean about bad habits and I'm very conscious of it, I might have explained the aiming issue as worse than it is. At this stage for me drawing 50lbs to my cheek and holding for say 8+ seconds starts to fatigue, I'm only really aiming to 1-3 seconds at the moment. Agree about having the 2 bows (maybe more) light and heavy and to this end I'm already looking..... www.archery-forum.com/showthread.php?44514-WTB-Hoyt-Buffalo-or-W-amp-W-RCX-17The Hoyt Buffalo is a good bow. Not to mention it was used by both Hawkeye and Katness. So it has a little film prop extra coolness.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Sept 5, 2015 23:47:47 GMT
At this stage for me drawing 50lbs to my cheek and holding for say 8+ seconds starts to fatigue, I'm only really aiming to 1-3 seconds at the moment. Traditional - especially for powerful bows - is to release as soon as you reach full draw, with no holding at all. The last part of the draw is quick, push the bow hand forward and bring the string hand back, and release. To be able to hold the bow at full draw and aim carefully, perhaps using sights, does help accuracy, but requires a lower draw weight (or a compound). Which is one reason why target bow draw weights are relatively low.
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Post by bigpete on Sept 25, 2015 8:12:41 GMT
I'd dispute this slightly. I've shot trad for nearly 30 years now for hunting only,sometimes i release quickly,sometimes i have to hold for a bit. As Paul was interested in hunting,i believe he has a good balance of power and doable draw weight. Last fox i shot i held a 75# bow at full draw for at least 20 seconds waiting for him to clear some trees. Can't argue with a broadhead between the eyes at 7m :)
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Post by ineffableone on Sept 25, 2015 12:41:32 GMT
Instinctive archery yes, you release at the end of your draw. But not everyone does instinctive archery and aiming archers can need to hold the bow at draw while aiming. Using sights or aiming down the shaft is not just target archery. Many hunters use sights with heavier poundage bows.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Sept 25, 2015 13:02:41 GMT
It's the different demands on energy and accuracy between military archery and hunting and target archery. For military archery, if you can hold the bow at full draw for 20 seconds, your bow is too weak. Energy is king. But hunters don't shoot at armoured targets, so energy isn't such a big deal.
Yes, modern hunters will use sights, but that isn't traditional archery. Sights needs more time. So you use a lower draw weight bow (or compound). Don't need to go as low draw weight as top level target archery.
Top level target archery bows aren't puny by beginner standards. You still want arrow speed. Flat trajectory and all that. No maximum draw weight in the usual rules (for recurves; there is for compounds), but you won't see competitors using 100+lb bows very often, if ever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 18:36:07 GMT
I would go with a Samick Sage in 35 lbs limbs. I know it sounds light but you want to work on your form. I belong to a large archery forum and we always suggest this for recurves even if the guy is shooting a 70 lbs compound bow.
When your using a compound your only holding 15% or so of that weight while you anchor and hold steady for the shot. On the recurve you are holding the full weight of the string and its "stacking" or getting heavier the further you pull it back.
If you have a 50 lbs recurve you might actually be pulling 55 lbs if your draw length is long. I have long arms myself.
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Post by bigpete on Dec 5, 2015 21:29:20 GMT
Paul already has a bow and is doing doing quite well with it but has a lot of other stuff on his plate at the moment. Hope he doesn't mind me saying so ☺
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