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Post by justin520 on Jul 18, 2015 8:57:51 GMT
Bit the bullet and ordered a bowie from poshland knives to see the quality, Matt Easton attested to their quality on youtube and he's a man with some brains about steel. I'll let you guys know. It is a pattern welded bowie knife with a subhilt and ten and a half inch blade. I'll have to sharpen the clip myself but that's fine.
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Post by svante on Jul 21, 2015 0:42:02 GMT
Already got one, they are full tang i can confirm that, they are not however any good, mine is only case hardened and the finish is terrible on just about every point, grinds are off, handle miss shaped and un-properly polished, one bevel is hollow ground the other is flat etc... Mine is also a Bowie btw. They are passable as display peaces absolutely horrible for any use. If anything this has proven to me that people who know about swords ( in this case Matt E.) don't necessarily know anything about knives, also the price is far from cheap. I might be cheeky by saying this but i think Matt sold out on us. And mine is not a lemon, a friend got one for himself and his wife and same story.
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Post by justin520 on Jul 21, 2015 2:00:24 GMT
Already got one, they are full tang i can confirm that, they are not however any good, mine is only case hardened and the finish is terrible on just about every point, grinds are off, handle miss shaped and un-properly polished, one bevel is hollow ground the other is flat etc... Mine is also a Bowie btw. They are passable as display peaces absolutely horrible for any use. If anything this has proven to me that people who know about swords ( in this case Matt E.) don't necessarily know anything about knives, also the price is far from cheap. I might be cheeky by saying this but i think Matt sold out on us. And mine is not a lemon, a friend got one for himself and his wife and same story. :( Just curious, but how long ago did you get these? One I don't think Mr. Easton would sell us out (at least not yet) and two I'm seeing lots of good reviews from them. Perhaps they improved their quality.
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Post by LemuelTheLemur on Jul 21, 2015 2:25:01 GMT
Matt’s reputation is pretty hard earned, I doubt he’d sell out for anything poshland could offer. He might just not be very knowledgable about knives..
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Post by justin520 on Jul 21, 2015 3:52:57 GMT
Matt’s reputation is pretty hard earned, I doubt he’d sell out for anything poshland could offer. He might just not be very knowledgable about knives.. I doubt this as well, no offense meant, but it's pretty safe to assume if somebody is extremely knowledgeable about swords they should at least know heat treatment and grind lines.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Jul 21, 2015 6:01:04 GMT
You know I looked at the website, don't think he made any of these knives, or made the pattern welded steel. He just puts his name on them.
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Post by justin520 on Jul 21, 2015 6:13:42 GMT
You know I looked at the website, don't think he made any of these knives, or made the pattern welded steel. He just puts his name on them. He didn't put his name on them, he bought them on a whim and reviewed them during a series where he tried to find good non custom bowies (quite the difficult feet).
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Post by svante on Jul 21, 2015 9:47:16 GMT
Already got one, they are full tang i can confirm that, they are not however any good, mine is only case hardened and the finish is terrible on just about every point, grinds are off, handle miss shaped and un-properly polished, one bevel is hollow ground the other is flat etc... Mine is also a Bowie btw. They are passable as display peaces absolutely horrible for any use. If anything this has proven to me that people who know about swords ( in this case Matt E.) don't necessarily know anything about knives, also the price is far from cheap. I might be cheeky by saying this but i think Matt sold out on us. And mine is not a lemon, a friend got one for himself and his wife and same story. Just curious, but how long ago did you get these? One I don't think Mr. Easton would sell us out (at least not yet) and two I'm seeing lots of good reviews from them. Perhaps they improved their quality. Got it 3 weeks ago, Matt kindled my interest. Like i said it was cheeky to suggest Matt sold out, but he definitely knows nothing about knives that much is for sure...
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Post by justin520 on Jul 21, 2015 14:33:46 GMT
Just curious, what made you believe it was case hardened? How much metal did you remove to find out?
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Post by justin520 on Jul 21, 2015 16:22:56 GMT
WEll I hope mines good anyways, or I'm gonna blast their site and Matt Easton.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 7:06:04 GMT
Visually, they appear to be a step above Windlass and if nothing else, the scabbards look decent. Another plus might be that they are willing to work with a customer's designs. One always needs to consider price and what they really expect.
In some cases, one might make out with an incredible value but by and large, one usually will get what they pay for. Sometimes more but also sometimes less.
A test of capability is always welcome, as is true testing and disclosure of materials and heat treat.
Not unlike swords, one can spend less for a variety and experience but weigh that against what a knife of better quality might yield. It really is a very subjective thing. I've spent more on a few quality knives that have been more expensive than wonderful swords. I am mostly all set with knives but have lately been collecting WWII knives and little fob knives.
Matt describes his passion for 19th century bowies and has found knives he likes. Honestly, I have looked at a few replicas myself but have my own ideas what I want in a do all or fighter. Like the sword market, there is a bit of fan boyism and sometimes the enthusiasm from a noted high profile user influences what should be a very objective search. I take a lot of reviews with a large dose of salt. Nor is it easy to convince anyone they may learn the expensive way.
So, if one wants to buy Pakistani and India's best, by all means go for it. Like I said, the scabbards look quite well done and the grinds look pretty good but the fittings and fitment are not too terrific looking.
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Post by justin520 on Jul 22, 2015 7:33:52 GMT
WEll I'll be doing a full disclosure review for the knife lovers here. Just as well I carry big knives for defense and rotate my carry so I run the gambit from expensive to middle line but try not to go cheapo. I'm hoping this will be good, it looks like a well fit subhilt from the photos I saw. Back edge needs sharpening but this is common of most bowie styles. Of course if I like it it will become a carry knife in my rotation.
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Post by svante on Jul 22, 2015 16:04:53 GMT
Just curious, what made you believe it was case hardened? How much metal did you remove to find out? I rubbed various knives i know the hardness off against the surface, one 58 rc, scratched it and it left marks, that's how i know its not as hard as they say and a 40 rc machete which did not scratch it, the reverse left marks on the machete, when i proceeded to check temper the knife did not snap but rather stayed bent, suggesting the inside is not hardened, because clearly the outside is, i checked if it was deferentially tempered but its not either. As for the sheath its the biggest semprini i have ever seen ( excuse the language ), the leather has a terrible smell about it and what they did to save cost is sandwich a peace of black foam between 2 peaces of thin leather and call it a sheath... I just think Matt is ignorant when it comes to knives, check his past purchases, he started off by buying an absolutely horrible quality bowie, despite its shortcomings poshland's knives are still a head by a good margin, so i think we experienced a buyer who's expectations where rock bottom and got something decent ( in his eyes ). Looking forward for your take on it. At least now your expectations are no longer as high.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 18:54:46 GMT
Just curious, what made you believe it was case hardened? How much metal did you remove to find out? I rubbed various knives i know the hardness off against the surface, one 58 rc, scratched it and it left marks, that's how i know its not as hard as they say and a 40 rc machete which did not scratch it, the reverse left marks on the machete, when i proceeded to check temper the knife did not snap but rather stayed bent, suggesting the inside is not hardened, because clearly the outside is, i checked if it was deferentially tempered but its not either. As for the sheath its the biggest poo i have ever seen ( excuse the language ), the leather has a terrible smell about it and what they did to save cost is sandwich a peace of black foam between 2 peaces of thin leather and call it a sheath... I just think Matt is ignorant when it comes to knives, check his past purchases, he started off by buying an absolutely horrible quality bowie, despite its shortcomings poshland's knives are still a head by a good margin, so i think we experienced a buyer who's expectations where rock bottom and got something decent ( in his eyes ). Looking forward for your take on it. At least now your expectations are no longer as high. Please post detailed pictures of your knife and scabbard. Your scratch test is a bit inconclusive but a bent blade is a bent blade. Again, detailed pictures of these claims. The scabbards Matt has shown look better quality than you are describing, so close ups of your descriptions might hold credence.
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Post by justin520 on Jul 22, 2015 19:07:01 GMT
I rubbed various knives i know the hardness off against the surface, one 58 rc, scratched it and it left marks, that's how i know its not as hard as they say and a 40 rc machete which did not scratch it, the reverse left marks on the machete, when i proceeded to check temper the knife did not snap but rather stayed bent, suggesting the inside is not hardened, because clearly the outside is, i checked if it was deferentially tempered but its not either. As for the sheath its the biggest poo i have ever seen ( excuse the language ), the leather has a terrible smell about it and what they did to save cost is sandwich a peace of black foam between 2 peaces of thin leather and call it a sheath... I just think Matt is ignorant when it comes to knives, check his past purchases, he started off by buying an absolutely horrible quality bowie, despite its shortcomings poshland's knives are still a head by a good margin, so i think we experienced a buyer who's expectations where rock bottom and got something decent ( in his eyes ). Looking forward for your take on it. At least now your expectations are no longer as high. Please post detailed pictures of your knife and scabbard. Your scratch test is a bit inconclusive but a bent blade is a bent blade. Again, detailed pictures of these claims. The scabbards Matt has shown look better quality than you are describing, so close ups of your descriptions might hold credence. As far as the sheath he is probably speaking to one thing I knew would be bad, the fact that they look good but are treated with something corrosive to carbon steel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 19:22:02 GMT
WEll I'll be doing a full disclosure review for the knife lovers here. Just as well I carry big knives for defense and rotate my carry so I run the gambit from expensive to middle line but try not to go cheapo. I'm hoping this will be good, it looks like a well fit subhilt from the photos I saw. Back edge needs sharpening but this is common of most bowie styles. Of course if I like it it will become a carry knife in my rotation. Where can I find reviews of knives you already have? Have you had chance to deploy a knife in a defensive manner yet? Do you have any practical experience with such or any training whatsoever? Read any books on the subject? List them if you have. Done any slashing or thrusting on any medium? Relate that. How have they held up in any chopping and prying? I have chopped up a heavy plastic display shelf with my fighter with no damage to the knife. ATS-34 steel and yes, the clip is sharp. Shaving sharp. A moderate 7" blade. I have put steel to flesh in a defensive/offensive manner (long before I was carrying a weapon on the streets). I have also talked down gunmen and one fellow with a large chef's knife. I have carried knives for defense and for years, had no need to draw one aside from utility use. I wish you a long life without stitches, bullet wounds and broken bones. (just turned 61 and none of my stitches were street fight related).
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Post by justin520 on Jul 22, 2015 19:32:12 GMT
What kind of knife is that dude?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 19:41:11 GMT
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Post by justin520 on Jul 22, 2015 19:42:47 GMT
So in other words procuring one of those pretty knives would be pretty hard.
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 22, 2015 19:46:26 GMT
Wow, that's a gorgeous knife. Real shame to hear the maker has passed. Also inclined to agree with everything else; I carry several knives for as many reasons, but "defense" is not one of them. I prefer the "get the heck out of dodge" approach to defense, when my usual method of not getting into trouble goes awry. Big bowie knives are good for getting stabbed with your own, or shot at by somebody else. That's about it, really. I carry a smaller (well, I think it's smallish, about 5" blade) general-utility-type fixed blade, and the most common reason I've had to take it out is to show it to a curious passerby. Second most common is that darn loose string I just can't get rid of and I really don't feel like digging in my pocket for one of the smaller folders...
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