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Post by trevarious on Mar 26, 2015 21:26:10 GMT
Just a quick question, I really like Romans and the associated culture, I'm just not sure I like the gladius as much as I like the longer Spatha, How easy is it to find a decent spatha for around the same price as a longsword? (Thats a pretty big point that that the longsword is winning) Anyone have any experience with this one? www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AH4208N&name=Roman+Spatha)%C2%A0 |
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Mar 26, 2015 21:36:13 GMT
Stay away from Deepeka if you want a functional sword.
There used to be a good Kris Cutlery Spatha but they discounted it I believe. No spatha but TFW (traditional filipino weapons) makes a pretty decent gladius (though the construction isn't traditional).
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Mar 27, 2015 6:48:27 GMT
Deepeeka makes some good bottom-end Greek/Roman stuff. Typically overweight, soft blades (the default used to be no heat treatment, so basically unhardened). Get the right model and you have the best historically accurate appearance that you can buy for those prices. Overweight is a downside if you want to swing it around. If I was going for a Deepeeka spatha, I'd pick this one: kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AH2002Del Tin's spatha is more expensive, but looks OK: kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=DT2040And there's this: www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=ANR5&name=Albion+Decurio+Roman+Spatha which is probably more expensive than most longswords you'll be considering (but it's cheaper than Albion's longswords!) I like spatha-like swords. Lightweight, with light hilts. You get a POB fairly far down the blade, but the overall weight is low, handling can still be good. This characterises a whole bunch of swords with all-organic hilts or at least organic pommels; fairly common for SE Asian swords. A good spatha hilt will give a very secure grip. |
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Post by trevarious on Mar 27, 2015 8:23:49 GMT
I love the Albion one,but it is waaay out of the price range I was looking at, the del tin one is closer (shooting for about $300) but If its a quality piece I'd pay the extra for it, I really have no idea about swords, I do want something that can take some punishment, which may push me back into long swords if I can't afford a quality Spatha
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Mar 27, 2015 8:28:14 GMT
Well, Deltins are pretty well built, I think you'll be fine in that department. They sometimes are overweight and lack the finer points of handling, mostly because they don't do the distal taper right. But several models are quite good.
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Post by trevarious on Mar 27, 2015 8:50:50 GMT
Ok, so it looks like Del tin is the company to look at for spathas, do they make more than one model? I can only see the one, but I'm on my phone and having problems with the site navigation
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Post by Bryan Heff on Mar 27, 2015 10:57:58 GMT
Check their site. www.deltin.net/elenco1.htmI am a fan of Del Tins. Very nice swords but as Lukas just pointed out...many models can be somewhat overweight, not heavy as tanks but heavier than what would have been historically normal. But for historical looks, they are at the top. I think they only have 1 Roman spatha. They have some migration era swords that some folks refer to as spathas as well, but sound like you are more in the Roman camp. I have eyeballed the Del Tin version myself, I like it. I like you want a good spatha as well but only a few out there for sure. |
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Post by Luka on Mar 27, 2015 12:11:46 GMT
Deepeeka has a new spatha, very historically accurate, ready to be launched to the market, but for now it's on preorder at roman army talk forum. If it will be offered as a heat treated version too, it would be worth getting. Except that one, Del Tin is the only affordable production spatha worth buying. www.facebook.com/AFespadas?fref=tsThese guys could make you a nice custom spatha for a decent price. |
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Post by Luka on Mar 27, 2015 14:00:36 GMT
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Post by Bryan Heff on Mar 27, 2015 14:19:51 GMT
Luka
I get access denied on that...any chance you can link to a picture or post a pic. Would love to see what this will look like.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Mar 27, 2015 14:20:58 GMT
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Post by Bryan Heff on Mar 27, 2015 14:25:04 GMT
Hmmm...thanks for that link Gunnar but those look like Gladius to me, Luka is saying a new Spatha.
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Post by Luka on Mar 27, 2015 14:33:00 GMT
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Mar 27, 2015 14:35:33 GMT
Okay, is this what you're talking about. Click on picture to enlarge.  |
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Mar 27, 2015 14:40:29 GMT
Okay, this must be the old one. I like the old one better.  |
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Post by Bryan Heff on Mar 27, 2015 14:44:45 GMT
Yes...the new Spatha is not for me. Not a fan of that handle.
Thanks for posting up the pics guys.
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Mar 27, 2015 14:51:04 GMT
To me it looks like something someone made in their garage. Just my opinion.
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Post by trevarious on Mar 27, 2015 15:09:32 GMT
That last photo gunnar posted was of the one I was eying earlier, but theres some concern about deepeeka making swords that can take some punishment? I do really like that spatha, I just eamma know its going to be good quality before I buy it
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Mar 27, 2015 15:42:58 GMT
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Post by Svadilfari on Apr 15, 2015 11:24:23 GMT
If you're leaning towards the Del Tin Spatha..be aware that Italian law means that all DelTin swords are manufactured blunt. If purchasing from KOA, they can be sharpened. Generally, KOA do a reasonable job at sharpening.
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