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Jan 23, 2015 15:51:02 GMT
Post by justin520 on Jan 23, 2015 15:51:02 GMT
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Jan 23, 2015 16:00:13 GMT
Post by DigsFossils-n-Knives on Jan 23, 2015 16:00:13 GMT
Splitting an incoming arrow in two. Holy Sh!!
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Jan 23, 2015 16:31:06 GMT
Post by brotherbanzai on Jan 23, 2015 16:31:06 GMT
Very interesting. I recall seeing this guy in a different video a year or so ago. I wonder if there are others doing similar research and practice in what is claimed to be old archery methods. I say claimed because I have no knowledge on the subject myself, so couldn't say how accurate in inaccurate it may be. Seems plausible. Definitely makes me want to get into archery. I'll put it on the list along with throwing axes, rock climbing, and dirt bike riding.
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Jan 23, 2015 16:31:11 GMT
Post by justin520 on Jan 23, 2015 16:31:11 GMT
This dude is on a whole other level.
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Jan 23, 2015 17:04:23 GMT
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Jan 23, 2015 17:04:23 GMT
That was awesome! One thing though is that when I first started shooting arrows (recurve bow) many, many years ago( pre-teen), I placed the arrows on my thumb as well. It wasn't until much later (mid 20's) when I got a compound bow that I started placing the arrow on the opposite side.
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Jan 23, 2015 20:07:47 GMT
Post by Deepbluedave on Jan 23, 2015 20:07:47 GMT
Some serious skills there, was doing shots I would not have believed possible.
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Jan 23, 2015 20:30:42 GMT
Post by whitefeathers on Jan 23, 2015 20:30:42 GMT
That is very cool. I did archery in gym class in middle school and I was taught to put the arrow on my thumb also. I loved it.
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Jan 23, 2015 20:42:25 GMT
Post by bigpete on Jan 23, 2015 20:42:25 GMT
Personally I think he's full of crap,sure he's good and fast, but as lot of other archers are equally accurate, and he seems to be be forgetting that that war bows from any culture were very heavy to draw and re drawn to quiete a long draw length,which would slow him down considerably. The stuff showing him running around in the bush with his back quiver was pretty lame,personally I've never had the problems he seemed to have in over 25 years of bow hunting. I honestly can only stand to watch half his video. If you want to worship a modern day archer check of Howard hill or Byron Ferguson , well Byron Ferguson anyway ,Howard hill isn't really modern day now lol. And the stuff about shooting off the right hand side of the bow is pretty silly,basing his argument off tapestries when the English method has been passed along for hundreds of years shooting off the left side but hey I guess everyone will believe him because he has a talent and wants to promote himself as being the only person on the net who knows about archery ! :-)
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Jan 23, 2015 20:42:40 GMT
Post by Aurélien on Jan 23, 2015 20:42:40 GMT
WOW. UBER-WOW.
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Jan 23, 2015 20:54:26 GMT
Post by pgandy on Jan 23, 2015 20:54:26 GMT
WOW, is an understatement. In all sports there is a handful that excels beyond all means. Lars Andersen is one.
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Jan 23, 2015 21:39:08 GMT
Post by Mikeeman on Jan 23, 2015 21:39:08 GMT
I've seen this guy in videos before. He's very impressive. He holds the world record for most arrows launched before the first one hits the ground.
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Jan 23, 2015 22:14:49 GMT
Post by Suho on Jan 23, 2015 22:14:49 GMT
I've got a new hero!
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Jan 23, 2015 23:20:34 GMT
Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Jan 23, 2015 23:20:34 GMT
I don't think I'll ever be able to shoot my bow again without feeling dumb. I think it will do my ego better just staying here.
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Jan 23, 2015 23:31:25 GMT
Post by Draven on Jan 23, 2015 23:31:25 GMT
Very impressive. Unfortunately...
In this vid at least the last shot states that the bows used were 30 and 35lb draws. Accuracy and speed at half-draw on a 30lb bow does not make a 'speed shooter' or a guru of the lost art of war archery any more than being able to hit a fly with a spitball makes you a sniper. It's impressive, extremely impressive even, but it would be much more impressive if it weren't so misrepresented.
/cynicism
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Jan 24, 2015 2:27:33 GMT
Post by aussie-rabbit on Jan 24, 2015 2:27:33 GMT
wow
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Jan 24, 2015 12:15:02 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 12:15:02 GMT
As an archer, IMHO this guy is onto something, showing what real archers were once able to do. Remember, historical archers weren't all cut from the same cloth, they all weren't Anglo-Saxon bowmen with high poundage longbows as high as they were tall. Many nations had elite cavalry archers with short bows, recurves, similar to what is used in the video, and were trained to fire quickly while in motion on a fast moving horse hitting moving targets.
These videos also conform how accurate 'intuitive shooting' can be using a bare bow without all the BS accessories attached to it, given enough (a lot of) training. Modern bows take a lot of the skill out of archery, I've split arrows at 30 yards with a hunting weight compound bow with hunting weight arrows, shooting fingers (no release aids) and I can say it's much harder to shoot barebow recurve than a compound bow with sights. Target bows, which are sporting equipment rather than hunting weapons or tools of war, have the draw weight of children's bows and have so much crap hanging off them and so many user aids that in my mind it loses the true skills and the spirit of real archery. If you're not shooting real hunting or military weight arrows, then it's just not archery! I have respect for this man and his archery skills.
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Jan 24, 2015 21:15:46 GMT
Post by bigpete on Jan 24, 2015 21:15:46 GMT
Mate I've always hunted with basic gear of up to 90# draw weight. My problem with him is not that he's fast and accurate,its in him saying that he has rediscovered an age old method of shooting war bows. No,he hasn't. He had created a method of shooting a lot of arrows very quickly while LARPing,that's all. And let's get real,a 30# bow pulled to half draw has not got the power to do diddly squat. I wouldn't even shoot rabbits with it,let alone a human in any sort of clothing. Is he ridiculously fast,yes. Is he super accurate,yes,but so are a handful of other dedicated archers. Is he truly rediscovering a lost art? I seriously doubt it. That's not saying that during the course of history there haven't been other freakishly fast and accurate archers,but it would have been a massive exception to the norm. As Draven said,let's see him shoot that quickly drawing a 100# English longbow to 32", or a 130# Mongolian horn bow to 36"! It would not be humanly impossible to shoot those sort of WAR bows as quickly a he does. And now I prepare myself to be proven wrong :-)
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Jan 24, 2015 21:39:01 GMT
Post by Mikeeman on Jan 24, 2015 21:39:01 GMT
Well, it did mention that he thought that ye old archers would have been much stronger and would have been able to do the same thing with much higher poundage bows. As another note, it's already going through chain mail. It might not be able to do the same damage as a higher poundage bow, but I still wouldn't want to get hit with one.
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Jan 24, 2015 22:54:06 GMT
Post by ineffableone on Jan 24, 2015 22:54:06 GMT
Very impressive. Unfortunately... In this vid at least the last shot states that the bows used were 30 and 35lb draws. Accuracy and speed at half-draw on a 30lb bow does not make a 'speed shooter' or a guru of the lost art of war archery any more than being able to hit a fly with a spitball makes you a sniper. It's impressive, extremely impressive even, but it would be much more impressive if it weren't so misrepresented. /cynicism Yep he and the other speed shooters typically use 25-35# bows, and worse if you pay attention they are not taking a full draw. They are typically only doing a half or less draw so the actual poundage is much less than 30#. Lars talks a good game but the reality is he is a bullsemprinier. He hypes himself up and misrepresents himself over and over. A good example of this is the holding arrows in the hand. He acts like no one else has done that until he resurrected it. But traditional archery hunters have never stopped doing that. This was never a lost art, but he wants to take credit for resurrecting it. It also does not take many years to learn to do. A couple months of on and off practice and you too can effectively carry arrows in your hand. Something else to note, and many of us sword folks should already know this, basing historical weapon use of art is not always accurate. Artists often were not knowledgeable about how to use these weapons, or how they even looked. They were artists and were trying to get across the idea but often had inaccuracies and even things quite wrong. Sometimes due to ignorance, but sometimes because they wanted something to be asthetically pleasing. Something else, the whole what side you place the arrow is dependent on what type of bow and what type of finger draw you use. I would not mind Lars if he was not a pompous "donkey" who tries to take credit of things he should not and if he was honest that most of what he does is not practical but just trick shooting. A good video to temper the hype of Lars Someone who does speed shooting and cool trick shooting, who does not bullsemprini and over hype it who I would recommend over Lars is Jeff Kavanagh who is a really cool humble and talented archer.
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Jan 24, 2015 23:20:59 GMT
Post by william m on Jan 24, 2015 23:20:59 GMT
Humph.... sorry but I am not impressed. I have known about this guy for a while now and the way he presents himself kinda annoys me. I find all the stuff he does to be overly dramatic and well the guy seems completely obsessed with himself.
Also the bow seems to be very of a very low draw weight, and those shots where it goes through chainmail.. welll I didnt see him shoot those arrows. Could be two guys off camera shooting with stronger bows, which would be impossible to shoot in rapid succession.
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