Begin. To begin is half the work, let half still remain; again begin this, and thou wilt have finished. -Marcus Aurelius Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow.-Plato This is gonna sound weird, but for a second, I think you took on the shape of a unicorn.-Dale Doback
Very seldom, but was nice when somebody was being an outright jerk or posting blatantly false and/or unsafe "information" and the like. We had a few folks with negative karma...those were the days~~
Anyway, back to post-based titles: Meh.
yeah the smite button. I remember a few would really get their panties twisted when their karma started disappearing. Lol I don't remember ever using it but then I prefer to do my smiting in person to give the other guy the option of punching me in the throat.
"Only that in you which is me can hear what I'm saying".
And yet, most of our old guard is still here, some ten years on...
Some of us really are here just because it's fun and/or gives us something to do.
THE ONLY REWARD I SEEK IS KNOWLEDGE (where is my TM)
Also, most would recall that the old exalt/smite system sent PM's with reasons and who's. There was also titles based on post count, as well as special reviewer "levels" and the ilk.
You were here when I got here in 07, Random as well as Shootermike. Others still here came around the same time. Hell, we didn't even have any moderators except Paul and he was busy building the place. We were on our own to work things out and we usually did, eventually. Lol
Even with the karma and titles and whatnot I didn't even notice that stuff. It was the people made the place. Truth be told I found the karma thing distracting which is why I opted out when we moved and started over.
I was never here for the pats on the back. It's the love of the sword and like minded people.
Yeah I joined in Mar 07, and I remember how it was back then.....I miss how it was back then. I voted for no ranking system here, I really don't think we need it and always thought it was silly.
Karma was alright, but just like what Rick said, it became a popularity contest. People would just throw out karma for silly things that had nothing to do with sword stuff. I remember members giving karma for jokes and stuff, not for giving advice, helping members out, reviews, or anything beneficial to the forum.
The post count ranking system really didn't mean much because members were posting just to get a higher ranking. We had one guy post one word, and them would post three time to say "that(post 1) was(post 2) cool!(post 3)" just to get his rank up faster.
It got so bad the Paul stopped the post count in the café sub-forum.
It just says senior forumite for me without any stars or title, I'm fine with that. If the ranking system stays I'm cool with it, but just keep the senior forumite for me.
"He that keeps not his arms in time of peace will have none in time of war."
Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Jan 17, 2015 10:21:14 GMT
I feel like Razor and voted no ranking system. Rank based on post count says absolutely nothing about knowledge or helpful posts. Karma was more useful in that regard but as others pointed out, it too became kind of a contest. I don't need any ranks, I'm fine with "senior forumite". Though I'm not sure how it's decided whether you are one or not. There's a couple people who have been here as long as I have and who aren't "senior forumite" (like Ric or randomnobody). But anyway, I think most people do just fine judging other members by what they post.
Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Jan 17, 2015 11:35:31 GMT
High post count or ranking doesn't mean much. You have people with high post counts that don't know what they are talking about. I've been here since 2008, but somehow a long the line got knocked off 3 times and had to rejoint so my post count isn't as high as it should be. Now with a M&V account don't have a ranking.
Don't care and I don't look at the stars either. To me arguments are the most important factor to determine a good post/thread. Good and bad arguments can be made by both senior and junior members. Furthermore, to give value to an argument based on a member's seniority is an argumentative fallacy.
Side point, but could we get rid of the default spinning sword avatar? Its a bit tacky and kinda distracting.
But it's the Sword of Omens! If I use it as my avatar I can use sight beyond sight, right?
As for the ranking system, I voted to ditch it. While I personally don't care one way or the other, I think there are people who will look at it and try to get their post count up just for the sake of being a duke or prince and having the associated number of stars under their username. Of course, on pretty much every forum in which I am a member there are people who just post anything to get their count up, but I think a definitive ranking adds incentive to do so. In the same vein, I don't think the karma system was all that useful either, as it really does become a popularity contest. As said earlier, content is really what it's all about, and what we should be focusing on.
I have no issues with the ranking system really. Keep it or not, I'm not going to get bent either way. I just personally would rather not have it because it keeps us equal.
The karma system does a little better at sorting out the more helpful but even that turns into a popularity contest at a certain point.
As far as separating the wheat from the chaff, the posts themselves should do that.
Ideally, having a rank system with the ability for individuals to opt out should make everyone happy as far as making everyone happy is realistic. LOL
No offence, Robert, but if someone is doing reviews for reward, they are doing it for the wrong reason in my opinion.
As a relatively new member of the forums ,I find the rankings (along with karma) useful in identifying which members were the regular contributors, etc. Yes, after a while you learn to identify which members are the regular contributors and are better able to separate the "wheat from the chaff" as it were. However, that does take time, especially since most newbies will not know the difference.
Long story short, I think the rankings would make it easier for new members to become familiar with other members, and become more comfortable with the flow of the forums.
EDIT: Just noticed that the default ranking is Man at Arms. Just wanted to mention that I know a at least few sword-wielding women who would object to that rank BTW
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