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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2007 4:26:49 GMT
You guys are real artists (Rammstein, David,Hobomuri). I would recommend you focus some of your attention to a variaty of guard designs. I think there is a lot of room there for improvement there. Much more then I think with blade designes. I recomend looking at various renaisance and post renasaince swept hilts, clamshell hilts and side ring guards and applying them to pre-renaisance blades. It would make practical sense and eliminate the need for guantles.
Try a viking blade with a swept hilt. Makes sense since a viking sword is primarily a cutting sword and the swept hilt guards best against cuts.
A longsword with a clamshell guard. Makes sense because a longsword uses lends itself to thrusts from the ox and plow guard. A cup hilt would work too. You can get very fancy with that.
A norman sword with double ring guards on both sides. That would go a long way to protecting the hand without the need for guantlets.
A gladius or hoplite sword with a main guage hilt to protect the hand. A main guage covers the outside of the hand and is large enough to serve as a mini-buckler.
I can go on and on, the renaisance period gave us some amazing hilt designs. Those can be used on traditonal darkage and mideval blades for increased functionality and hand protection.
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Post by rammstein on Apr 12, 2007 19:46:23 GMT
I'll see what I can come up with for you No ill will intended obviously with this, but why not do them yourself? Just draw anything from mona lisa quality to a crude sketch! If your idea is good, it won't matter how well you draw, provided you can get the point accross with both your picture and words, if needs be. Besides, I think there is a dearth of artists, why not join us? My style of drawing is only interesting up to a certain point. Same goes with hobomurai, david, and cameron. It's always good to have new blood inducted into our art society, that way people don't get bored looking only at our designs! And considering I'm already in the lower 20's in numbering my swords...I'm beginning to think that people are getting saturated in my style Join us, we'd love to have you and oggle your designs
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2007 20:31:28 GMT
Drawing a desighn myself was my first though, but I don't have a scanner. I don't think I would be able to post my drawing.
But to be honest, I am horible at drawing. From what I saw from you guys, I know you can do much better then me. My swords pictures would look like pencils or something.
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Post by rammstein on Apr 12, 2007 21:47:42 GMT
tsafa, I'm certainly no great artist. I draw what I see. With generous help from a trusty magizine, book, or (gasp) actually a ruler to draw straight lines ;D! Everything I do is self taught and not very hard to do. Just have a good imagination. It may be hard at first, but I can only stress that practice makes perfect. So does looking at real/replica swords whether in museums or in pictures or in your own collection. Notice fuller terminals, guard width, pommel size, any and all details. Feel free to take one of my designs, if you like them, and print it out. From there, trace the sword onto a blank sheet of paper, and finally make any and all ajustments, modiifications, and eliminations as your heart sees fit. Take a picture of it and show us how well it turned out
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2007 0:04:22 GMT
But how will i get it into the computer without a scanner.
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Post by rammstein on Apr 13, 2007 0:07:49 GMT
A decent quality picture should get our point out more than sufficiently. Although you probably won't be able to show us fine details like meseaurments and engravings and whatnot, we'll probably be able to see the design under normal lighting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2007 0:23:24 GMT
Thank you for the suggestion tsafa, it would certainly make things more sensible and "fun" for history buffs who know what they are looking at and by all means more functional! But tsafa, I know very little about the varied guard designs, could you perhaps post a link to examples of some?
And... thats the spirit Rammstein! I agree with you whole heartedly that anyone can learn to draw and the beauty of it is everone inadvertently brings their own style.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2007 1:20:08 GMT
Thank you for the suggestion tsafa, it would certainly make things more sensible and "fun" for history buffs who know what they are looking at and by all means more functional! But tsafa, I know very little about the varied guard designs, could you perhaps post a link to examples of some? Ablsolutly! The thought had actualy crossed my mind since I last posted. www.jamesthejust.com/Period%20Rapiers.htmScroll down to see pictures. At the bottom of the webpage you will see links to more webpages. My favorite is the Jack Silver design (straight guard). I may buy it. www.jamesthejust.com/index.htmlI would recomend a thicker crossguard for use with a cutting sword because it will get beat more. On the rapier the qillion only trap and set aside. Here are some more designs to work with. www.popinj.com/rapiers_swept_hilts.htmKeep in mind that the different guard disigns are intended to afford certain specific protections against cuts, thrusts or both. Here you will see an example of side rings and main gauche. www.popinj.com/daggers.htm I have not been able to find the example of side rings I wanted. Two side rings on each side. Big one on the crossguard and then smaller one two inches up. Anyway, there is a lot of stuff there for you guys to digest.
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Post by rammstein on Apr 13, 2007 1:28:46 GMT
see, I would have directed him here and let him have fun looking at the marvelous swords for sale ;D ;D ;D www.darkwoodarmory.com/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2007 1:35:17 GMT
Nice link Rammstien. They have an example of the double rings I was talking about. www.darkwoodarmory.com/pix/0688.JPGThe hilt is symetrical so I can use it right handed or left handed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2007 7:24:22 GMT
how about a basket hilt or a schiavona or swept hilt on a broad bladed sabre? That would make an already deadly weapon that much scarier.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2007 11:35:48 GMT
The schiavona hilt is really nice. I would like to see it on a variaty of blades.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2007 21:08:12 GMT
wow! talk about diversity this certainly gives leeway for some creative designs, thanks tsafa/rammstein........tsafastein
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Post by rammstein on Apr 24, 2007 21:27:05 GMT
what about a schiavona hilt with a 1796 light cavalry blade?
That would make for quite the weapon!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2007 22:23:49 GMT
wow! talk about diversity this certainly gives leeway for some creative designs, thanks tsafa/rammstein........tsafastein Holy sh1t thats funny. You've created a monster!
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Post by rammstein on Mar 17, 2008 19:55:22 GMT
Well that's pleasant.
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Post by oos3thoo on Mar 25, 2008 19:34:42 GMT
Whats that? I do not dare to click it!
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Post by tajima on Mar 25, 2008 20:24:39 GMT
Holy hell.
That's just scary.
Thanks, -Tajima
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2008 1:22:22 GMT
Looks like they're links to a Chinese or Japanese forum. The characters look funky unless you have those fonts set up to display. Our "guest" probably was trying to show off some of his designs or something. I don't think it was anything meant to be distructive.
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Post by rammstein on Mar 26, 2008 2:27:51 GMT
This is sort of getting absurd...
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