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Post by Barahir on Dec 23, 2013 2:26:05 GMT
What do you think about this ? www.ebay.com/itm/261358158386?ss ... 1423.l2648 anyone know them ? They told me this sword was made exclusively for them ... Price look good but how about the quality ... as good as Kris Cultlery ? Opinion please  |
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Dec 23, 2013 7:49:03 GMT
EN45 is a spring steel Carbon 0.50-0.60% Phosphorous 0.05% max Manganese 0.70-1.00% Sulphur 0.05% max Silicon 1.50-2.00% I would be careful - the advertising seems a bit sus - eg. www.ebay.com/itm/U-S-Union-Model ... 3a86827f8c Made in USA ? doubtful |
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Dec 23, 2013 8:09:26 GMT
E45 tells me is not make in the USA.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 23, 2013 9:29:02 GMT
Made in India, judging by the style.
Sometimes they have nice budget polearm heads. Their spearheads are nice. Some of the swords have the usual issues common with Indian-made Medieval European replicas - Viking swords with diamond section past the fuller, modern-style metal scabbard fittings with frog studs, etc. I've not sharpened. reshaped, or abused any of their blades, so can't say anything about heat treatment or hardness.
Some of their swords are quite nice, and I think good value (especially when on sale at reduced prices). I like their Coustille-like short sword. Some I'd avoid, either for poor historical accuracy or ugliness (or both).
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Post by Stromlo_Swords_USA on Dec 23, 2013 9:56:52 GMT
Agree - EN45 is an Indian equivalent to somewhere around 1040-1050 steel range which can be treated to a useable (for swords) strength. Sword looks like it was made in India which would mean heat treat less consistant but usually not too bad. Kris one is 5160 and would be more likely to have higher QA and finish.
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Post by Barahir on Dec 23, 2013 9:57:41 GMT
this space between the rings on the hilt look different on pictures with the red background and the ones with the fur ...
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Post by Barahir on Dec 23, 2013 10:00:02 GMT
agree but I can't find any KC version these days ...
they made a new batch but the hilt is now made of full plain bronze
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Post by bloodwraith on Dec 23, 2013 21:31:39 GMT
If you wanted to spend a bit more, there is always this;
traditionalfilipinoweapons.com/C ... Sword.html
The products of TFW are well respected within the community so I can't see you having any problems with this one.
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Post by Barahir on Dec 25, 2013 13:21:31 GMT
I've ordered one |
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Post by Talon on Dec 25, 2013 15:36:21 GMT
EN45 is a very good spring steel,from what I've read it's more similar to 9260 .Rob Miller uses both EN45 and EN47 and I doubt anyone would question his quality. The EN classification (emergency number) is obsolete but still widely used and is the European classification for steel. Here's a quick chart www.spectro.in/Steel-Chart.htmlSaying that though I would be hesitant on taking a punt on the sword in question.I would go with one of the more recognised brands. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2013 16:10:27 GMT
These australian guys suck bad! Ask Mr. Swiger!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2013 16:19:40 GMT
TFW seems to have some nice toys!!!  Wanna have that thing on the left!!! Thats an Anduril!!!  Attachments:
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Post by Barahir on Jan 3, 2014 2:57:02 GMT
finally ALSO bought the australian ''thracian look like'' sword. Had the sword for 137$ CA shipped. Not bad I think Now im done with Swords buying for couple of weeks |
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Post by William Swiger on Jan 3, 2014 7:34:47 GMT
I bought three swords off these guys about 5-6 years ago. They were pretty crappy. One sword stayed bent on a simple flex test. All three went to the dumpster. Just another lesson that EBay feedback is not always accurate even for people selling from countries where you expect better.
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Post by Barahir on Jan 3, 2014 10:38:03 GMT
the same celtic one ?
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Post by William Swiger on Jan 3, 2014 10:52:39 GMT
No - the ones I bought were later European medieval swords.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jan 3, 2014 11:05:00 GMT
better to stick with TFW
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Post by Barahir on Jan 3, 2014 21:44:59 GMT
bought the 2 Swords lol
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jan 4, 2014 0:38:01 GMT
Given that their swords look a lot like Deepeeka swords (not the same, but similar), and the seller doesn't say anything about heat treatment for most of their swords, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find they have Deepeeka-like heat treatment. I.e., none at all, on some/most of their swords.
If I pay sub-Deepeeka prices, and get Deepeeka quality, and didn't expect more, I'd be happy enough. If I expected the better end of Windlass, and payed Windless prices, I'd be unhappy.
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Post by William Swiger on Jan 4, 2014 7:16:48 GMT
I don't know where they source their products but the ones I received were below Windlass quality. I did expect a better product than I received. That was my only venture into buying medieval swords that were not from established companies. Actually - one of the established companies was not much better. ;-)
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