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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 4:12:25 GMT
Hey y'all, A while back I did a post or review pertaining to a Henry Boker (Solingen, Germany) 1860 Lt Cav Sabre of the American Civil War that a friend's ancestor toted in the war. I remarked that the blade had been blued. I can only presume that the scabbared, which is missing, had been also. My question is this; while I know that the American style back then was to have weapons polished bright and raw and not blued, does anyone know if any other sabres came blued or was it just certain imports? Just curious. Thanks, Freebooter Alabama
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Post by hotspur on Sept 8, 2007 11:32:55 GMT
As no Boker imports to cover the need for 1860s I have ever seen (quite a few) have been blued, I have to think that the example you have seen was blued after the fact.
There is a tendedncy for some to do this to old blades in a preservative fashion.
Although there was never really a loss of decoratively blue and gilt blades, doing so on service swords was never a common practice I am aware of, either from the source, or by the end user.
Cheers
Hotspur; easier and subjectively better to darken than polish a blade sometimes
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2007 23:35:14 GMT
Hello Hotspur, Good to hear from you. Anyway, I wonder when it became the "norm" to blue blades and guns? I have the feeling that European countries started doing it before us. The reason I say this is because English Enfield rifles came blued and many American officers had the blueing removed so the weapons would have the "polished bright" look. At least that is what I have read and heard. FB
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Post by hotspur on Sept 10, 2007 11:28:38 GMT
I know I have shared this with you before but the contracted numbers of Boker cavalry sabres was in the tens of thousands www.angelfire.com/wa/swordcollector/marks/page1.htmlUnless the blade shows other embellishment, such as etching or engraving that would indicate it was an officer's sword; the likelyhood it was blued before delivery is virtually nill. Without the sword in hand, I would be foolish to even speculate as to what type of finish you are seeing but I can assure you it is quite unlikely that your firearm analogy bears any relationship, aside from a means to protect metal from undue corrosion. When the blade was darkened after import is anyones guess. Although there were some nickel plated scabbards appearing in that decade, most were simply polished bright. This is also true of the blades. As the century wore on, Germay was nickle plating a lot of blades and one starts seeing dark scabbards. This is simply not the case with the imported 1860s from Boker. It is interesting to muse about a sword's history but important to keep it all in context, as to what evidence and appearance really means. Cheers Hotspur; I've blued working knife blades myself, they didn't come that way
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2007 20:45:17 GMT
Thanks Hotspur. I was unsure of Germany's parctices at that time. I wish you were near by we could drop by and look at the sabre. FB
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