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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 23, 2008 20:45:19 GMT
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Post by salvatore on Jan 24, 2008 12:34:55 GMT
I usually have a katana next to me, a knife under my pillow(folding) a knife in the couch adjacent to me, 2 bokkens, an iaito, and some piano wire. LOL, okay, maybe I don't have the piano wire, but I have all those other things!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2008 13:08:46 GMT
You can garrotte someone with guitar wire as well. Of the weapons you listed the bokken would be my first choice. Definitely not going to use a knife or katana unless the stakes are high or I have a knife with a striker on the pommelwith which I can hit someone with without using the sharp part. I like my rolling pin and my bokken or possibly the FB Slasher which Brenno is making for me.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 24, 2008 15:00:27 GMT
human are violent buy nature I think it is because we are the only creature with out a natural predator over our heads and the gods saw fit to make us fear what we don't understand and make people so different from one an other
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2008 16:18:54 GMT
Sword: could you possibly run your posts through a spellchecker? The constant errors are starting to give me a headache, not trying to be confrontational here, just a basic request.
We are violent but that is not what we are at the basis of ourselves and even violence can be tempered by discipline and training. Fear is also a learned response which can be somewhat overcome, as a famous man once said "courage is just fear holding on for a few seconds" and also "a hero is the man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time but did the right thing." We are not so different from one another at our cores, it is to do with our backgrounds and things that we seem so alien to each other.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 24, 2008 18:30:37 GMT
I'm reminded of a saying I heard once "fairy tales don't teach children monsters are real children know that fairy tales teach children monsters can be killed"........ to fear things like death, the dark, the water,the woods those things are all an extension of the same basic fear of the un-known......... just my little theory take it or leave it
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Post by slav on Jan 25, 2008 0:36:52 GMT
Swordboy, your last two posts bring up some very interesting points.
Violence is a by-product of fear. Not only is the committing of violence a reaction to fear, but it is also a way to cope with it, because voilence gives us dominance, and dominance pushes fear aside.
Overcoming our fear internally is the best way to prevent unneccesary violence, and to know when we are justified in commiting it.
So, don't rely on that knife under your pillow to make you feel safer...Rely on yourself. Only then will the knife be of any righteous use. Weapons are tools of the mind.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 25, 2008 5:06:12 GMT
if some one trys to enter my home my concern is to repel them but I have some training and know I can keep my head about me so I meet a threat with necessary force not the most just what I need to ;D get'r'done ;D
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Post by slav on Jan 25, 2008 5:24:41 GMT
swordboy:
what kind of training do you have?
(and do not say "I just waltzed into dojos and got the crap kicked out of me until I practiced my own form and eventually I could regularly beat trained martial artists...)
that is bull puckey. What kind of actual martial arts or tactical/situational training do you have??? And how did you get it?
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 25, 2008 13:11:04 GMT
milatary family and kick boxing since 2 grade
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Post by salvatore on Jan 25, 2008 16:42:02 GMT
Violence is something that we all experience. Hell, I don't want to fight, but first thing I am going for is the stomach or chest, not like I would want to kill an attacker. A friend of a friend killed someone with an iaito to the temple, and it was not intentional. It seems that a lot of people get killed in self defense situations just as much as murders...well, give or take a few deaths on murders end.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 25, 2008 19:42:17 GMT
no self respecting fighter,martial artist,or soldier likes violance it is just a means to an end or a preventive measure ...... another tool in your bag and one you hope not to use
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Post by slav on Jan 25, 2008 22:15:04 GMT
sword: No self-respecting figter, martial artist, or soldier likes to talk openly about having used it, either.  |
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 25, 2008 22:52:38 GMT
can we not start that again
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Post by slav on Jan 26, 2008 0:28:01 GMT
I was kinda just messin with ya, (hence the winking smiley)... but yeah, good point.  |
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 26, 2008 8:57:18 GMT
sword: No self-respecting figter, martial artist, or soldier likes to talk openly about having used it, either. Slav, I know you're just messin' with SB, but in my experience...this is just not the case. Most warriors I have spent much time around don't have a problem discussing that, if it's germaine to the discussion. It's just something that's part of the trade. Not good, but not terrible. Just something you do. And particularly in the context of training, discussing the technical facts and happenings about the use of deadly force is what modern training is all about. Just my pair o' pennies... |
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Post by salvatore on Jan 26, 2008 9:42:44 GMT
no self respecting fighter,martial artist,or soldier likes violance it is just a means to an end or a preventive measure ...... another tool in your bag and one you hope not to use Not necesarily, they say that boys and teens(male) do not always develope a conscious until about age 23. I know someone like this, if his parents and brother were to be killed before his eyes, he would be startled, but uncaring. It is not a sick joke, people like this exist. Some say that is why the military try and reach out to younger crowds, if you have not fully developed a conscious, you have no problem taking a life, therefore, it becomes a part of you in later life, when said person does develope a consciousness, he has no problem killing again. If you have met these sort of people, you would be weirded out, I know and interact with 3 people who are like this, it is simply crazy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2008 17:07:52 GMT
I take it you mean conscience and a number of people are almost completely devoid of one, we call them sociopaths or pyschopaths iirc, and you most certainly wouldn't be accepted for military service if they picked up on this as you'd be a liability. Don't ask how I know. Think about it they'd abandon, or even harm, their own compratiots if they felt it was in their best interests and certainly wouldn't be likely to endanger themselves to assist others. A bit of a case of 'I don't have to outrun the lion, I only have to outrun you.' Bang! As to using violence, most people will avoid it, including amoral people, but the adrenaline can certainly make living through something a bit addictive and I'm sure some people experience a sort of bloodlust where you feel almost invincible if things are bad enough but still going your own way. |
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Post by slav on Jan 26, 2008 18:19:30 GMT
sword: No self-respecting figter, martial artist, or soldier likes to talk openly about having used it, either. Slav, I know you're just messin' with SB, but in my experience...this is just not the case. Most warriors I have spent much time around don't have a problem discussing that, if it's germaine to the discussion. It's just something that's part of the trade. Not good, but not terrible. Just something you do. And particularly in the context of training, discussing the technical facts and happenings about the use of deadly force is what modern training is all about. Just my pair o' pennies... Yeah I guess I meant "bragging" about it, not just talking about it. Especially when it may have been unneccesary. But sword is right I don't want to get back into that again. Thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2008 19:24:22 GMT
I often get asked by various people in my family, "Why do you carry a handgun with you everywhere?". I tell them that i look at it in the same light as the airbags and safety belts in my car: I hope and pray I'm never in a situation where I need them, but I'll be mighty glad it's there if I ever DO need them. Same goes for any other thing used for defense, whether it's a knife, sword, kubotan, OC spray, or even black-belt level training in some martial arts discipline. It's just another piece of safety equipment held in reserve in an uncertain and unsafe world.
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