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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 27, 2008 22:45:24 GMT
since some of you guys are knowledgable about pressure points and stuff, I got one for ya. Years back I was wrestling a budy of mine and he ended up punching me in the back, right in the middle and a little left of the spine, I was instantly paralyzed for a few seconds, like banging your "funny bone" in the elbow. Is this a nerve or something? Ive never been able to find it again, but I can tell you its a good way to stun someone for a few secs. The spine is basically the central nervous system. All of your nerves are connected to it. He probably hit the connection between some nerves and your spine. When you hit a nerve right, it causes temporary paralysis. Kinda like if someone were to hit you in between the armpit and under the bicep, it could cause you to drop for while. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 0:57:52 GMT
There are nerve clusters on the body that will cause paralysis if you can hit them properly. I know that there is a nerve in the arm if you hit it right you can make someone spontaneously throw up with them having no control over it. He probably hit you in one of those nerve clusters, you are lucky that he didn't hit you harder as it is a very dangerous place to hit anybody. A straight thrust with fingers out like you are holding a tray into that area would leave you in some serious danger. A straight thrust with a twist into the right nerve cluster will paralyze you until the person reverses it. You don't need pressure points, the human body is more fragile than people think.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 28, 2008 1:50:55 GMT
I go for max pain and least damage ..... to train this I used a training dummy and marked the strike points and beat the stuffing out of it to commit them to muscle memory
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 28, 2008 4:18:20 GMT
Er... What bloodwraith said.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 7:06:48 GMT
I go for pain and damage, better to break the guys arm then have to actually kill him. Smash him in the right spot and disrupt his CNS long enough to allow me to get away or make him think better of it. The problem with the whole max pain min damage is that a lot of guys can turn the pain off long enough to do some serious damage. I had a guy punch me in the kidneys and I turned it off long enough to leave him unconcious on the floor. I learnt from getting punched in the kidneys that it isn't fun. Take your opponent down hard and fast before he can inflict any damage on you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 8:42:47 GMT
There are nerve clusters on the body that will cause paralysis if you can hit them properly. I think I have a fair understanding of anatomy and physiology... and I know of no evidence of this kind of thing. Do you have any? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 9:40:04 GMT
spine, floating ribs, tailbone, these will all cause paralysis through agony. There are areas like the cartoid that if you hit them and block them you only have 10 seconds before the persons brain starts to shut down and you have to reopen them or the person dies, that is one way of paralyzing. I am not going to go too deeply into these kinds of things as I really don't want someone doing something that has taken me years of careful training to learn, because I don't want someone to accidentally kill or do irreversible damage to someone. There are places on the spine that you can compact to cause an inhibition of the signals being passed. I've done some massage as well and it is amazing how much information you get about the body and pain centres of the body that can be applied to martial arts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 10:50:11 GMT
Ah I understand now, I thought you were meaning some of sort of hocus pocus...
Thanks for explaining!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 11:07:49 GMT
No mate, no hocus pocus, just what works and what is effective. It wasn't me that mentioned dim mak which is hocus pocus and as I said only works on people who believe it works.
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 28, 2008 21:06:54 GMT
I believe in Chi and believe their is a Dim Mak.. Like the other things mentioned, it just works better on some than it does others. I also believe, in a scientific point of view, it causes blood clots.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 28, 2008 21:35:42 GMT
clots can take weeks to affect .... I use acupuncter and meridain nerve clusters and it puts people down and hard presure points may not work on all people ..... but put a kobaton in a pain center and any one would think twice
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 28, 2008 21:38:41 GMT
True, but dim mak wasn't really for fighting.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 28, 2008 21:55:05 GMT
sorry don't know any thing about it .... post come sites and I'll do some research
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 28, 2008 21:58:48 GMT
Hmmm... There isn't really much info on it. The info is a hit or miss type of thing, because not a whole lot of people understand it, seeing you have to understand Chi and Acupuncture for it.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Jan 28, 2008 22:02:02 GMT
my knowlage of chi is limited and so is my understanding of acopuncter......but I'm all for learning new things
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 28, 2008 22:58:07 GMT
As am I... Lol, I only memorized few of the chi points.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2008 0:10:07 GMT
s3th: I'm not sure how you are practising dim mak but from what I know of dim mak, there is only one person trained in it at a time and that person hands down his knowledge to one person and as you live in Canada I very much doubt that is you. I know about chi points and things but I think they are more a mind over matter thing than an actual thing. If you can make your body believe something it will happen, like GI's in Korea, when the hospital ran out of morphine they would give them sugar tablets and tell them it was morphine and it would work.
What I know of dim mak is that it is taking your own key energy and "injecting" it into your opponent therefore poison their chi or chakra in the area that you "injected" your chi energy into. It sounds like complete crap to me and I don't believe the guy who tried it on me knew even half of what I know, but it is semprinis. Just my opinion.
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 29, 2008 4:44:44 GMT
One person knows, but it how did they get this knowledge? They found out through enlightenment. I think I may have found it through my own studies. I have not tried it yet. But I use it in a more practical way. There is more to chi than knowing, it is living. It is not knowledge, it is wisdom. And from what I know of dim mak, it is the opposite of acupuncture, instead of increasing flow, it decreases flow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2008 4:52:36 GMT
How does anyone have any knowledge? It is passed down, except in this case it is passed down master to pupil, and it is only taught to one pupil. There is more to chi than knowing yes but there is more to chi than just living. Actually knowledge and wisdom equate to the same thing, you gain wisdom through knowledge and vice versa. Dim mak is not just decreasing the flow of energy or blood or whatever you want to call it, it is about actually effecting a persons chi energy, acupuncture doesn't effect chi energy. Like I said though, I think that dim mak is crap personally.
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 29, 2008 4:57:14 GMT
The source of it was obviously a person, and what he says is just what he believes. Hmmm, Maybe I made up a martial art... I should call it Seth Mak! Hahahh.... JK... Meh I guess to each is his own...  |
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