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Post by Anders on Aug 5, 2013 16:29:58 GMT
I've never played any of the Assassin's Creed games - I don't have access to the hardware. Still, the more I look at the Sword of Ezio by Windlass the more I kinda want it. If nothing else, the stats suggest it might be good base for a saber project.
Now Windlass seems to command a fair be of respect as far as lower end swords go, but I also have the impression they can be sorta hit and miss. So I was wondering if anyone has had a shot at this one. Also, as someone who has never bought a Windlass before, what can one expect in general? In particular, I'm interested in what quality of steel and heat treatment they typically deal in.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Aug 6, 2013 1:50:41 GMT
kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=883019I've looked at it a time or two. I kind of like Windlass (within reason) and I'm a dead nut for sabers, and every time I remember that it's not under (modern swords/battle ready) then I give it another long looking over. It kind of reminds me of the Albion/Samson John Carter of Mars longsword, but maybe that's just me. I have found good tempering with my Windlass blades, and pretty solid construction. I've got (or had) the following Windlasses: shashka, American revolutionary war saber, 1850 Union staff and officer saber (plus some assorted Windlass shorties). The shashka was a scratch'n'dent from KOA, and was loose in assembly, but the other two were tight and well executed. Compared with original saber blades, they'll probably exhibit drastically less distal taper, and won't thin out towards the tips as an original might. Trying to compare the Ezio sword's stats with swords (sabers) I've handled implies it should feel pretty good---to me, at least. There's some profile taper but not much distal taper, a 6" POB is only a touch farther out than I think ideal. (My beau ideal saber pretty closely tracks the blade length, weight and POB of a EMSHS.) I know some of the English fighting swords of the 19th century were right at two pounds, right about where this one is. If you're game to tinker with them some, I'd give this a solid recommendation; if you're averse to modifications, I'd still give it a qualified endorsement . . . but then, I'm some guy on the errornets, wtih only a little bit of experience.
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Post by Anders on Aug 6, 2013 2:37:39 GMT
I think looks like a very straightforward saber-type blade, almost prototypical, but that's what I like about it. There's something very elegant about its simplicity.
It also appears to be a larger sword than what the pictures imply. It's surprisingly broad at the base and has a seven inch hilt. Even discounting the pommel that's gotta be a lot of tang to work with.
My ideal saber is sorta tricky. On one hand I want it to be quick and agile, but I also don't like the more extreme sort of distal taper you see on most antiques. I want a blade with a bit of mass at the end, that feels like it can take a hit and packs a bit of a punch.
That mameluke saber I bought a while back - with its 2.36 lbs and 9" pob - was too heavy for my taste, but not by that much. The main reason I've been planning on selling it rather than try to make it work is because I don't quite trust the heat treatment.
Now the distal taper on the Ezio sword seems to be more or less comparable to my Valiant Warder, which I think is acceptable, especially for a lighter duty sword. The Warder, I should mention, has a ridiculously light blade for it's size - most of the inertia is actually in the hilt. The Ezio is quite a bit smaller, so at least I doubt it's too heavy for me.
If I do buy it, I'll almost certainly make a new hilt for it. (And some kind of sheath, I guess.)
I just don't want to end up with something I actually can't fix, like dodgy temper or a rat tail tang.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Aug 6, 2013 2:48:57 GMT
That would surprise me; it's not what I expect from Windlass.
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Post by joepittman on Jun 25, 2016 1:02:51 GMT
 Maybe it is a Renaissance piece. Some one at Assassines Creed was trying to get the look of a Swiss saber and they found this hilt from an old drawing. Don't recall where I found it. I contacted Windless about this saber and found it was not their usual 3/16ths but full 1/4 with some taper. It is a very stiff flex at the cog and pob is about four out the way I have it mounted now, I do not recall pob as it was but I did not think they paired up very well so I put the hilt and pommel on another sabar blade and put a Shivonna hilt and pommel on this saber and it works very well and turned out be a historical representation of a Deccan piece from a book Arms and Armor of India. I think it is a very worthy sword and came keen but not razor sharp and no rat tail or welded tang. |
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Jun 27, 2016 7:06:22 GMT
Another one back from the dead.
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Post by nddave on Jul 18, 2016 19:32:41 GMT
Indeed, is this sword even still available? Well I've played the games and from what I remember AC2 that Ezio is in happens in the 16th-17th centuries so yea it's supposed to be a Renn styled sword and not modern. Then again it is videogames, lol! Though of all the games around AC has usually been the most focused on historical accuracy though is still pretty equal to hollywood historical accuracy.
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