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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 7:13:20 GMT
I just got a windlass great helm and it has no padding inside.
so if anyone could help me out, how do i properly pad the helmet so it will fit. i know I'm supposed to be wearing an arming cap and coif. neither of which i have.
also shouldn't there be some sort of chin strap or something? or else what is there to stop the thing from spinning round when you get hit in the head?
any advise is appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 8:15:10 GMT
I fight in the SCA with a 9 lb helmet. I get hit on the head at full power and speed with the equivalent of a baseball bat. The padding is just as important as the steel. I went to models and bought a Close-Cell foam mat. These are foam mats for doing sit-ups on. Get the thick ones for head protection. I have my helmet padded with that. It only costs about $25 for a mat. I also use liquid nails to glue cell-foam to the inside of my leather armor. It acts as a gambeson.
Another option is these kick boxing foam helmets that would fit inside the helmet. I think wrestlers use something similar. I have not tried it but I have seen other people use it. I would have to test that out before buying it. It is probably more expensive. They also sell traditional head caps. I see Hanwai will be selling some soon. I had a chance feel an arming cap out at a recent event of another merchant. I find them too thin. I would have to try it on and do some tests. I have more confidence in the cell-foam at the moment. If you are not actually fighting and want to be traditional, go with the headcap.
You will need to make a chin strap. They are generally not included because people have different preferences. You can make it out of leather, perhaps from some old belts. You will need to design it so that you have two straps. One over the chin and one under joining at the side of the chin. This will keep it in place. The straps should attach diagonally between your ear and chin. I just went to models and bought a football helmet chinstrap. It has two rings on the side that I tied a thick sting two. I then drilled two hole into the sides of the helmet near the ear. I pass the strings through and just tie the stings down under the helmet. If you are going to be fighting with this helmet then you should have a face grill. You nose should not be able to touch the grill if you push into it.
Other then telling you to also use a gorget to protect your throat and upper vertebrae, I think I have covered everything.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 8:50:04 GMT
thanks Tsafa. I won't be figting in it. it is mostly for display, but i do want to be able to wear it just the same. pulling out the insides of a football helmet sounds like the best bet. i'll have to look into Liquid Nails. just for curiosities sake do you know how they wore them in the old days? this is the one i'm talking about btw www.kultofathena.com/images/300082_l.jpg
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 12:38:45 GMT
They had arming cap+mail and/or secret helmet under the great helm :)This picture should give you the basic idea...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 21:06:22 GMT
Yep, just like Echlon said. They wore an arming cap. Which is a padded cap that ties around your chin. The one you have probably would have been worn with a mail coif too. You would probably only wear that helm on horseback on open fields. The visibility is too poor for foot combat or forests. If you dismount, the helm comes off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 21:53:53 GMT
Generally, historical helms would have had a leather liner riveted inside, sometimes with a chinstrap. You can see this liner represented in figure 5c in Elchon's pic. Think of a modern construction worker's helmet. The shell of the helmet is held securely onto your head and away from your skull by the liner. Most repro helms come without the liner, since most people will either just display them or line them with foam, as Tsafa suggested, for SCA type fighting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 6:42:11 GMT
Thanks a lot guys. and +1 to Elchon for that diagram. I might try making it historically accurate if i can, but most likely i'll just put in a hard hat liner and a chin strap. thanks again!
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