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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 1:25:44 GMT
So I decided to purchase a katana around $700. To me I'm gonna go all out. I want a top quality katana for that price. can some one tell me of a good company in that range. I came across this skyjiro company and found out that there headquarters is 40 min. From my house in ft. Washington PA. I called them up, and David the owner picked up. He wants to meet me and show me a few of his prototype models. Models not even on the website. The katana I want is the warlord. (1070 carbon steel folded 1200 layers clay tempered. I believe this sword is of top quality and is not a production sword. He told me to meet him at his studio and he has a couple dozen swords. This company sells high end katana mostly ranging from $1000 to $7000. But has prices from $200 to $900. So what do you guys think. Attachments:
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Post by Maynar on May 7, 2013 3:42:15 GMT
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Post by uchiha998 on May 8, 2013 14:04:59 GMT
Skyjiro is kind of known as sketchy company around here. If you want a good katana for around $700 check the Budo. It is a beautiful katana and one of the best cutters around.
Also it is technically a production katana if they are producing and selling them before the orders are placed. In other words if you can go online and pick out a particular model, then that is a production sword. But just because its production doesn't mean its bad or its not handmade or anything. I only buy production katana because I feel customs are a hassle. Also sometimes the customs that you come up with in your head are much more difficult to make in the practical sense. Therefore you end up with something quite a bit different from what you had imagined. To me its best just to get a production katana(in shirasaya if you want) and then customize it little by little.
But I must say I have heard alot of horrible things about skyjiro forge and I suggest you stay away from them. For one thing they seem to have people making threads on their behalf about how great they are. Many of their swords seem really overpriced for what they are as well. If you read a couple of random threads about skyjiro on this forum you will quickly be informed of their shady business practices.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 0:48:33 GMT
I wanna know if the katanas are bad. Because if you say they are then your saying bugei is bad. What reasons are they shady
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 1:30:53 GMT
Basically I wanna purchase the emperor for $679. Everything about it looks good and bugei sells it so that has to mean its good. Can someone tell me if the sword alone is a decent sword for the price. A good price for bugei to sell too. Regardless of the company. I'm not dealing with shipment cause I'm buying it at David's office when it arrives just because he is out of stock at his studio. So I can examine it before I hand over cash. Does that seem like a deal.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 1:39:23 GMT
How do I get a katana if they are all sold out
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Post by adamthedrummer on May 9, 2013 1:46:13 GMT
Contact RICKY. .. dadaochen on here... he will know when they are in stock. :-)
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Post by xdskiller on May 9, 2013 1:49:59 GMT
you're buying a 680 dollar sword that has a cross polished kissaki. When a price for a sword is above the $400 dollar mark and doesn't have a decently polished kissaki, something is wrong. Personally I just think they aren't worth the money. Bugei may stock them because it's a good sword. But it doesn't mean it's overpriced. Also I can see the wood peeking out in some of the pictures. If you think it's worth it then by all means give them your money. No one is going to stop you. But what I believe most of us are and will try to tell you is that there are better companies out there that give you a better deal. I believe that these swords are just about the same as a high end musashi,even though no one posted a review on them but they do look somewhat similar.
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Post by chrisperoni on May 9, 2013 2:00:45 GMT
What exactly is your deal man? Scratch that- I know what it is. Have you noticed you get upset if people don't just give you the answer you were looking for? 'Cause I have.
You are incorrect in saying that if Skyjiro is bad then Bugei is bad. You don't understand the connection between them and given your attitude I don't feel like explaining it beyond telling you this.
You have posted in at least one thread that discusses why Skyjiro has the reputation it has. Maybe try reading the threads you post in.
Here's some rhetorical questions for you: If you've already convinced yourself you want to buy a certain sword then why not just do it? If you wanted to know about a certain sword then why didn't you just ask about it from the get go? If you aren't going to take answers in kind then maybe don't ask?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 3:17:26 GMT
wow, whats my deal, what your deal getting offended on another ones comments, who cares... don't get offended on the comments I make. I didn't even have an additude. plus how can you tell I have a additude by typed words on a computer. so im not exp in buying katanas. im a little confused in the whole skyjiro topic. I don't care about the shady business part about skyjiro im more interested in the sword. and no one said anything bad about the actual product. im not upset on the awnsers people give when its not what I wanna hear. I wouldn't ask it if I didn't want to hear it. I just figured if bugei sells it then it must be good. like I said im not experienced in katanas and I thought bugei is a top contender. I really like the way this particular sword looks but if its not worth it then I will try every angle. but if all of sbg's answers are the same then ill base my discussion on that. im not the one getting offended here. I don't want to wait for to get stock. I don't even know what you guys mean by a cross polished kissaki. so for future reference don't assume these things. and I just asked a simple question. what was wrong with what I said on the second paragraph . your making me think SBG isn't a friendly place to ask my concerns. this is the second time someone got offended of my comments. you guys don't need to get so offensive around here. I mean were talking swords here not politics.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 3:22:59 GMT
ok ill try that, one thing about is how much are these katanas, when they are out of stock they don't give a price
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Post by Onimusha on May 9, 2013 3:33:16 GMT
Budo-about $650
1095 beater-supposed to be $240 when they come back. check with frankthebunny
RK-2- $400 or so iirc.
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Post by kingrikoraru on May 9, 2013 3:44:37 GMT
I'd go with a ronon dojo pro/elite or wait for a . They are the best for their value. If you're not that experienced in katana, I don't suggest first going for anything 500+, but it sounds like you have your mind set on getting that skyjiro. What you need to understand is that you're jumping into a company that is disliked around here for their bad business tactics, only 1 review so far, with very little first hand info on swords. They suggested the 2 best katana you can get with your money but you don't want to wait so I got nothing here. In the sword world, patient will always reward you.
Just because bugei is good doesn't mean the skyjiro they're selling will be up to the same quality. They are part of hanwei and the amount of flops that hanwei put out from bad QC is....well just search around here. They might just have a business connection to make some money, much like many sword vendors around here(KoA, one of the most respectable one, also sell skyjiro and thaisuki - 2 of the worse rep sword companies around here).
Lastly, you already know skyjiro rep around here and people will steer you away from that brand because of their bad rep. You're inexperienced and most starters would get a lower end one to learn from it, or take suggestions. If you're going to ignore that because you don't want to wait, then just really...why ask in the first place? There are so many well reviewed and regarded katana in this price range that you can easily look up and find out about. Beside their bad rep, skyjiro also have a reputation for being over priced. If you're going to get it despite what everyone said, then what was the point of asking?
P.S: Kaneie is probably the best one in the production sword market right now. Unless you get into custom makers, it's probably going to be a production sword (especially if it's coming from China). Also, just to reiterate one more time, since you haven't handled other quality swords,how do you know what you're getting will be top quality and good for the price?
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Post by xdskiller on May 9, 2013 3:53:54 GMT
I recommend you start with buying some cheaper swords to get a better idea of what you really want. And a cross polished kissaki is a badly polished kissaki which has alot of "scratch looking" lines on it. Most of the people here at SBG have went through threads where skyjiro makes a account and posts a review of their own sword, the problem is that the reviews are extremely inaccurate and they denied the allegations that the account that are using are all from one company. If I recall correctly, the IP addresses were checked and it all came from china somewhere. I don't think chris is trying to be mean, but I have to agree with him. I don't exactly know the posts you have made in other threads, but you seem hell bent on getting a skyjiro. So once again, if you want it, go for it. We are just giving you our opinion on skyjiro, which is what you wanted.
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Post by xdskiller on May 9, 2013 3:54:58 GMT
Wow king, you just ninjaed me right there
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 4:10:34 GMT
OHH MY ANOTHER ONE. I never said I wasn't gonna take any suggestions, And I do own 3 katanas, a masahiro 1060 $135. a ryansword katana 1095 clay folded $270, and a lyuesword 1095 clay folded $268. and all these brands have many flaws. I've been thinking and waiting for about 6 months know on what sword to buy. so I performed plenty of patience. I do know a little about katanas but next to some people in here its nothing. so my 4th katana. I want it to be better quality. I don't know where you guys think im coming off single minded here. like im not going to take any one advice. I never said anything like that. I just don't want to wait for do to my financial situation. I have the money know but in a month or so I probably wont. so now is my chance to get a higher end model from a well known company. there is nothing wrong with me want to do that.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on May 9, 2013 4:14:49 GMT
Hey Salv! So, to state everything simply- you're open to suggestions, you have a Masahiro, Ryansword and Lyuesword and want to 'move up' in the sword world, and though the Skyjiro looks cool, since everyone says it's basically overpriced and possibly crap to begin with (and personally, I'd add my opinion to that group) you are willing to consider some 'better' brands. However, you want to buy NOW and not wait, so and other out of stock models are not an option. Am I correct so far? If so, let's redirect this thread to suggest some great katanas that Salvatore may find superior to a Skyjiro focusing specifically on models that ARE in stock. Speaking of that.... does anyone know if a Bamboo Mat might fit the bill? -Slayer
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Post by adamthedrummer on May 9, 2013 4:21:09 GMT
Hey I wonder if any of those shirasaya longquan blades are still available at the sbg store? They look really nice.. :-)
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on May 9, 2013 4:24:07 GMT
Huh, that would be cool! I'm not sure that a shirasaya would be the best bet for Salv's first real sword from a respected brand, as it's not really all that safe to cut with and so it wouldn't be terribly exciting.... but at the same time, I bet Josh (FranktheBunny) from Cottontail Customs could customize it into whatever he wanted, and it'd look great. Just my $0.02. -Slayer
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 4:27:03 GMT
you are correct. and I was actually on a site ( forget the name) I was looking at the bamboo mat but I heard from somewhere that hanwei swords are alittle thin. is that correct. I like the feel of a nice heavy sturdy blade with no bo hi. if this isn't the case than hanwei will be a good cannidate. I think some one said dynasty forge too, to exspensive and plain. I like the polish jobs on hanwei though.
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