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Post by ineffableone on Nov 30, 2012 1:05:22 GMT
Actually I am not knocking the draw weight of the bow as not doing anything, since a 30-35# bow can functionally take down deer. I rewatched his video and he does say he is using a 30-35# bow at the end, he uses two different bows.
What I am knocking is historically people were using some pretty heavy poundage in bows. Even small mongol and Arabian bows were often pretty heavy poundage due to being bone or antler backed bows. You can get very small bows with some serious pounds with such bows.
This is a very good video about how powerful some of these bows can be yet still very small
So my issue is a lot of the historic bows would not be low poundage bows that would make for easy quick firing.
I do think this is a cool concept but claiming it is rediscovering ancient methods of masters is probably just hype. If it does work though, then cool. I don't care who invented it, or how old the method is. If it works it works and it would be very interesting to try out.
Sadly I am in NJ now and don't have a large wooded back yard to shoot in. I think my new neighbors would look at me quite odd if I went out in the yard and started shooting. So I need to find a good place to try testing this out. I might have to take a trip out to the pine barrens and do some stump shooting.
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Post by demonskull on Nov 30, 2012 2:21:43 GMT
Might I suggest that the answer is a heavy poundage bow used at partial draw for quick fire and drawn fully for shots where distance or power is needed. A fairly simple solution that covers all the bases.
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Post by Svadilfari on Nov 30, 2012 3:47:44 GMT
3 shots in 1.5 sec ?..mmmmm - not impossible, But the real test is how many ACCURATE shots in the shortest possible time ?. Regardless of the type of bow, and draw weight..whats the fastest time to get 3 shots into the scoring ring on a standard archery target at standard competition ranges ??
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Post by RHVette on Nov 30, 2012 5:00:20 GMT
Personally, I find the claim of tapestries being accurate depictions of bow form to be spurious at best. First, the artists are constrained by the resolution of their media (the "puking arrow" concept). Second, by what measure does being a weaver make one an expert in archery? Even if we assume that there was a minimum of specialization of skill and that these weavers could shoot a bow and arrow, that in and of itself does not prove or even imply mastery. A modern analogy might be to say that because Jason Statham drives cars in movies, watching The Transporter will unlock the secret to shaving a minute off your track time at Fiorano.
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 30, 2012 5:08:13 GMT
Check this out. You can see her accuracy. Will it hit an aspirin tablet? No. Would you want to be in front of it? I wouldn't. I shoot a 68# english Longbow. I've done plenty of snap shooting at rabbits and one very unlucky duck. Once you get used to the poundage you can draw the bow quickly.
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Post by ineffableone on Nov 30, 2012 5:53:44 GMT
btw added this thread's link into the Unofficial Archery index thread
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Post by avery on Dec 1, 2012 1:45:28 GMT
How about twelve arrows in 17 seconds....and this man is definitely for real. Happens about the 2 minute mark, but the whole video is worth a watch.
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Post by ineffableone on Dec 1, 2012 2:47:08 GMT
thanks for sharing that video Avery, that was pretty cool. A lot more reality based I think than the first guy.
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Post by Taran on Dec 1, 2012 11:40:08 GMT
25Lbs works pretty well hunting small and medium size game. I wouldn't go after anything dangerous or larger than a small deer with it, but for squirrels and rabbits and even a variety of canines, it should be plenty.
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Post by Onimusha on Dec 1, 2012 16:52:37 GMT
Here in Georgia, the minimum legal draw weight for deer is 40lb.
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Post by Ichiban on Dec 18, 2012 9:28:31 GMT
Reminds me of my own fast shot technique, not that I'm much of an archer though. I pull the string backwards and push the bow forward at the same time, no aiming, more an instinctive thing that requires a lot of practice. The power is adjusted to the distance, and not consistant like an aimed shot.
The old scandinavian (viking) bows (this guy is from Denmark) were inspired by the Sami, and it were mostly laminated bows 4-7 feet long with a draw weight of around 40-50 lbs. Similar bows were used for hunting small game in Scandinavia into the 18th century.
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