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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 6:46:42 GMT
Skyjiro 1050 High Carbon M105009 test retail $299 www.skyjiro.com/ProductInfo.asp?ID=659Ok so that is the product i got I have been reading from this forum for a long time now,and found alot of spam about Skyjiro before i purchased it,as i thought i would research the sword before i buy and found all the trash talking on this sword forum,but it did not worry me as nobody actually had a skyjiro sword to comment on as far as i could gather it was all judged or based on images? so i thought i would buy one and see,i have been interested in katana's for many year's, i recently found this mob called Skyjiro when searching for cheap but good swords as we all do, anyways i made contact and a guy by the name of Dennis replied the next day,and was most polite and helpful in giving me all the info i needed before i would buy it,as i was worried about paying good money for chinese junk that will fold up on you at the sight of a tatami mat, and i wanted to make sure it was a useable sword,not just for show,as it does look to be like a real nice show piece, i do own Hanwei practical series swords,and i no they work,so i went for this sword of similar style of blade as i felt it would be most suitable for what i wanted and i also liked the fittings, so it arrived in good time,the brass Habiki and tsuba and Tsuka are all solid as a rock,and has a nice wieght and balance to it, the blade is awsome mirror finished,you can do your hair in this sword,and it is Razor sharp too, like most sword add's they say razor sharp and you get it and has a false edge or is no where near razor sharp, well this 1050 carbon katana is razor sharp,mirror finished,and very solid,ok so it all seem's good,but anyone can hold a sword and say WOW its sharp and what not,let's go up the backyard and see what we can find to slice with it, this is ther home page link to, www.skyjiro.com/
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Post by Insane on Mar 25, 2012 7:21:42 GMT
Nice too see a review of a skyjiro sword. I was kind of curious about these blades after someone from skyjiro came on our forum and pretended to be just a new member with two or three different acounts even. It's so stupid if manufacturers or retailers do that because it comes across really amateuristic. They just have to know that we like every functional and well made sword. And we name it like we see it. If it's the real deal we'll name it. If it's a piece of sh*t we'll say it. It's good to see that you look like a real new member, and not just some one from Skyjiro posing as one
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Post by LastGodslayer on Mar 25, 2012 11:42:56 GMT
Thank you for this interesting review. Everything seems to be on the up n' up but I still feel that after what they (presumably) did, they can't be trusted. Devious business practices really can't be condoned. A shame since the blade actually seems pretty good.
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Post by Chinook Kaze on Mar 25, 2012 12:07:31 GMT
Seriously? Another attempt to dupe folks into believing this is an objective review by a genuine, honest forum member? I'll make a simple appeal the the ownership/management of Skyjiro Forge: please just introduce yourselves and your products to us in an honest and forthright manner. If you genuinely believe you have a good quality product and are offering a fair value, then contact the forum administrator and moderator staff and work with them to arrange for a respected forum member to do an objective, independent review of your product. This continuing onslaught of thinly veiled, dishonest posts is doing nothing to establish a real, trusted reputation for your firm.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 12:40:58 GMT
Ok it seem's like we have the same garbage starting again from this forum member Chinook Kaze, why doesn't everybody just ask this guy for his valueable opinion as he thinks it's worth soemthing, call my 1st post dis honest? are you serious?the picture's are there mate i dont no about you but my eye's work alright i can see them quite clearly? i figured this may happen and im not going to get into a slanging match with children over swords,the genuine people or user's will read it and see it for what is,the clowns will just keep posting there crap becuase thats all that they can add to the discussion's, they cannot provide input of any kind so they have to start throwing there trash around
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Post by somewhat on Mar 25, 2012 14:39:55 GMT
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Post by Insane on Mar 25, 2012 15:49:34 GMT
In my opinion there is only one who is starting garbage. And I'll let you figure out who that is. But to give you a tip:
Read what kaze says, and maybe even what I wrote.
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Post by LastGodslayer on Mar 25, 2012 16:05:26 GMT
Actually, I don't think it matters if this is legit or not. For the price of this blade I could get a custom Huawei, or a Ronin, or a KC, or a sword from any number of other places that haven't ruined their reputation(or haven't had it ruined) even before they had their products reviewed somewhere.
I think we all appreciate the review. It at least gave us a glimpse of what Skyjiro katana are all about.
I'll take it for what it is and assume nothing about its legitimacy: Decent sword. Price is high compared to current market options. Dodgy marketing policies from the sellers. nuff said...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 16:51:58 GMT
This is one of those times I wish I were a moderator, so I could see some IP addresses... For some reason I picture the OP and the majority of replies posted from the same computer. :lol:
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Post by ineffableone on Mar 25, 2012 17:36:44 GMT
I noticed most of the pictures still had the packing oil on the blade. Though in the pictures there is smearing blemishes on the blade from the reported cutting. One thing I have to ask why cut a wire fence? Really what is that representative of? I don't think I would ever intentionally do that with a sword unless it was in a life or death situation or if I was doing a destructive test on a sword. The final picture of the cleaned sword with no nicks no scratches after cutting through gum wood branches, and wire fence, and hitting the ground. I have to say I am a bit skeptical. I get small scratches from cutting water bottles. I get more scratches from cutting wood branches. I have never hit wire fence but imagine you would seriously get scratching on the blade after such treatment. Yet I see none and see no chipping or other edge damage which would be likely when striking metal. *edit the reason I am skeptical of no scratches is my sword is T10 steel and this is 1050. T10 should be more scratch resistant than 1050 as 1050 is much softer metal, yet my sword has more scratching than this demo shows. Especially after cutting wire fencing 10 times and hitting the ground I would expect quite a bit of scratching on the blade. Also I didn't see any small nicks (after looking again) in the final picture and noticed the reviewer reported two nicks saying probably from hitting the ground.Skyjiro has been caught using multi accounts registered to the same ip. This is a fact. This is the reason people on this forum have had issue with the vendor, not any issue with the swords themselves (other than price). This is not trash talking but serious criticism of a companies tactics. Because of Skyjiro being caught using multi accounts to post about their swords it does make one wonder about your post, for obvious reasons. Especially if your a sword collector and read the info on this forum before you bought your sword from them. What made you decide to try trusting a small no name vendor who uses dishonest tactics to market their swords after reading the tread here about them? After doing a little google search SBG, Backyard Cutters, and Skyjiro Forge website and ebay are the only places I see mention of Skyjiro. So how much research did you do to decide to purchase a $300 sword from a forge you didn't know and has little information about it? I found nothing suggesting that any independent reviewer of these found them worthy to buy. Only Skyjiro's word on it. So since you said you like to research before you buy, what made you decide to go with a company with poor advertising tactics rather than a company who has a good reputation like Hanwei which you already own some swords from?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 18:08:38 GMT
If you can zoom...look at the last pic of the vertical blade . I count 7 nicks/chips. Up at the yokote a couple of big ones. Down near the glint..midblade a number of smaller ones. They're there and seen on a zoomed view.
My ipad zooms well but doesn't have p-shop or I would circle them.
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Post by ineffableone on Mar 25, 2012 18:14:54 GMT
Ah yes I see now, yep a lot of chips much more than two reported.Yet no scratches, very odd to me that one would cuase that much edge damage and not get any scratches.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Mar 25, 2012 19:10:19 GMT
Shouldn't this be "the friendliest" sword forum? Even though there have been shady stuff before I believe it's not very welcoming to bash a new member. Even if it would turn out to be shady in the long run, better give a warm welcome...
I haven't heard from this company before, and their website says 2010 so they are pretty new to the business, I believe? Haven't been very active in checking production swords for the last couple years so this have popped up during that time.
Now I believe, ozzy=aussie so therefore buying a sword from australian vendor might be a good option. As I believe they offer free shipping inside Australia so that will save you the postage costs of ordering international. Yep we international sword lovers don't enjoy the free/low cost shipping that you US customers always have.
Not all people read Internet forums, fair amount of information is passed from mouth to mouth. Don't know what's the word on these swords where you live but like I stated above, research can be done outside the Internet too.
LastGodslayer summed my opinion about the sword itself, decent sword. The most important thing is that you are happy with your buy.
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Post by Chinook Kaze on Mar 25, 2012 20:17:44 GMT
If the_ozzy_samurai is a genuine new forum member, a thousand pardons if I seemed (unintentionally) rude or unwelcoming. I'm unconvinced, and that remains to be seen.
Australians and other folk do fondly use the nick name "Oz" for that country. We Americans do, fondly, refer to Australians as "Aussies" , not "Ozzys" ( or more correctly "Ozzies" ) and I'm pretty sure Australians don't refer to themselves as "Ozzys" Any Down Under natives are more than welcome to jump in and correct me if I am wrong. Additionally, the vast majority of Australians are quite literate folk and possess a pretty fair command of the English language and I'll reason that they would be unlikely to have made the grammatical and syntactical errors that can be found in the OP. Appologies up front to all the non-native English speakers on the forum. I have the greatest respect for the folks that contribute on this English language forum for whom this is not their native tongue and have to wrestle with our unwieldy language.
I don't believe I cast any aspersions on the product, quite the contrary it seems decent enough. The price point/value is quite another matter. Anyone that has done a little research and bought a few swords will have a good idea of what swords with these materials and level of construction ought to sell for.
I would suggest anyone unfamiliar the the Skyjiro Forge issues on the forum do a bit of poking around here for that history.
Caveat Emptor.
btw, I'm not a guy. I'm a silly, middle aged woman that has enjoyed this forum immensely and have learned a great deal here.
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Post by Student of Sword on Mar 25, 2012 20:26:38 GMT
A glowing review from, which is also the first post, from a new member about a katana from a retailer that had a history of sock puppetry, is suspicious to say the least. If one just want a friendly forum, and nothing else, go to Disney Forum. The name of the forum is "Sword Buyer Guide." If the forum does not critically look at the sword, a retailer, or a production company, the forum does not live up to its name.
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Post by ineffableone on Mar 25, 2012 21:01:56 GMT
I was friendly, skeptical, but friendly and asked some questions for clarification and voiced why I was skeptical. The reputation of the vendor, and the lack of scratches upon a blade that I would expect scratching upon after the use it was reported to have endured. Also if research was done, what made the buyer pick this company as I found nothing but the SBG thread, UBC thread and Skjiro's own website and ebay info. If I had only seen these doing research my first reaction would not have been to try this new company but to find a more reputable vendor. As Student pointed out a vendor who has been caught and has the reputation for creating alt accounts to hype their swords here, well yes posting about their swords becomes suspicious. Anyone posting about Skyjiro will get a very large degree of skeptisism, due to the alt account (sock puppet) use previously. The OP stated he saw the original thread on SBG though immediately chalks it up as us spamming about Skyjiro. Which is odd since it was Skyjiro spamming us. It also said we were trash talking, yet did not include how Skyjiro was caught using sock puppets as a way to market their swords. It had gotten so bad with Skyjiro returning with a new account every so often the thread finally was locked. forum.sword-buyers-guide.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4430So buyer beware, that is the thread the OP says SBG was spamming Skyjiro with, and trash talking. While not everyone was polite as could be, there was plenty of open mindedness. Plenty of pleas for Skyjiro to come clean and sign up as a vendor. Requests for them to donate a sword to a known reviewer to do a review impartially. But read it yourself and see why people are skeptical when Skyjiro is involved. So I am sure the question some have is since the old thread was locked is this just another Skyjiro sock puppet making another attempt at marketing their swords here. I don't know and am willing to give the OP the benefit of the doubt and say he might be legit. I am skeptical as I have mentioned though. I have seen some points in the review I asked questions about and would like to hear the answers for them. So sure we are a friendly bunch here usually, but that does not mean we lay down and take being spammed by a vendor with sock puppet accounts and not call them on it. That is not us spamming Skyjiro, that is them spamming us. That is not us trash talking Skyjiro that is Skyjiro getting caught spamming a forum.
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Post by I Frammenti Di Fede on Mar 25, 2012 21:16:43 GMT
This just makes my day. I gotta hand it to Skyjiro sword for giving us all lots of laughs. That should be enough to get us to buy one of their swords right?
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Mar 25, 2012 21:25:27 GMT
Well I just read it as a first review by young australian sword enthusiast, not knowing any background, so I treated it as a legitimate (unbiased) review. Well as unbiased a person who has aquired a new sword he really likes can be...
If this indeed was made by the company itself (like many here seem to think), well these could be the first "tests" that are performed with this sword.
Don't know the density of australian Gum tree but to me those look impressive cuts if they were indeed performed with this sword. As this was described as test I see that's why that wire fence comes in.
Don't mind me (I won't derail this thread more), just thought that young fellow was joining the forum (judging the age by opening post and that angry defense). When you have to be on the defensive side, although partly unnecessary, from the beginning it's hard to feel welcome.
I remember why Paul originally created this forum but in my mind this has evolved to be much more than the original idea. Checked that Disney forum too but it's not really my cake, don't wanna argue about the best dining place in certain Disney resort. Now this was partly joke and I hope I didn't offend anyone with it...
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Post by ineffableone on Mar 25, 2012 21:34:21 GMT
I totally agree with you, and would have felt the same if I had not been familiar with the previous thread. Even though I am and am skeptical of this posting, I feel no reason not to give it the benefit of the doubt, even with my questions I see no reason to say this is Skyjiro posting it. BTW hahaha :lol: so true! Even people who just got an SLO are so proud and happy with their new sword. Honestly I think it is great you chimed in as a voice of reason and made a point to remind people to be friendly. Good looking out for the forum. +2 karma from me
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 5:29:33 GMT
Ok Guy's and Girls, Firstly thanks for Friendliest Sword forum welcome i appreaciate the hatred for me already,thank you My eye's are sore from so much reading, ok bare with me im trying to answer 100 questions in 1 reply,honestly i had no idea my post would cause so much drama's, i really just went for the under dog,like the brand no body likes,that is why i hit the fence's and hit anything,i do own á few Type 95's and also have some other modern day made swords,but i have seen review's on all of them,i just went for the sword that no body likes,i was hoping for a big fail honestly but it did not,i dont work for skyjiro,if i did i would not bother on here after what has happened before with that stalin and other clown's bashing there name,im just trying to get my point across,that i purchased this sword,and it does work ok, of course the fence was just silly i did not care for the sword as i said i have many others, Also i do live in Australia, 1 1/2 hours from sydney in fact, and we call ourselves what ever we like Ozzy Ozzie Aussie,an some names that cannot be mentioned on this forum,but we use lot's of colourful language when talking to each other over a beer and BBQ ,anyways back to the swords,yes there are many brands out there,i just like to try the unknown guys,as i got a custom katana made a unknown forge via an ebay seller in the states years ago,and by far the best modern day made sword i have,makes hanwei practical look like letter opener's,i have no idea the forge it came from they would not give me that info on purchase, anyways guys im sorry for stirring up toruble i didnt mean any harm i honestly was not expecting this reaction and i think my SBG Forum life is alot shorter then i expected,
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