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Post by Madax132 on Oct 29, 2011 17:34:26 GMT
www.kultofathena.com/product.asp ... +Short+Bow I'm really digging that bow but there are no arrows that go with it. Can someone point me to a set of arrows that match it?
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Post by Bogus on Oct 29, 2011 18:10:16 GMT
Ohh, I like it...
It says early and often it's got a 20 inch draw length, based on how adamant they are I'd be inclined to not go past 19...so 19 inch draw length. Compound hunting bows have a draw length between 25 and 30 inches, assuming you're not worried about shooting historical ammunition (e.g. handmade wooden arrows) I'd go to the nearest archery store and get some inexpensive hunting arrows cut down to the appropriate size (tell the guy they're for a 20 inch draw and he'll do the rest). Pretty much anybody who sells archery supplies will have the ability to do this--even the big box stores--and if you wind up going through a lot of arrows you can get the equipment to do it yourself for not a lot of money.
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Post by Madax132 on Oct 29, 2011 18:59:25 GMT
There were no short bows historically with that draw length?
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Post by Dampiel on Oct 29, 2011 20:32:32 GMT
Not really the Native Americans used shorter bows but I'm not sure what their draw lengths were.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 16:44:30 GMT
With a 20" pull it won't be very powerfull or have much range. Why not the "King Arthur" bow or similar style (it's $20 less too) ? States it's for "snap shooting" ( ) Personally I prefer to draw to my cheek so I can atleast aim. One of these days (when I can post pics) I'll do a how-to on my homemade arrows... I use a threaded rod, (3/8" inch, but for one of those I'd use 1/4" maybe). There are two types of threaded rod or "all-thread" one is higher carbon. Then find corresponding (hardwood) dowel. And thin brass tubing from the hobby shop or some hardware stores. For 3/8" spent .38, .357mag, 9mm, .380 shell-casings can be used instead ,with the rim cut off, they need a little fitting. For field points I just sharpen the threaded rod , then cut them off, and fill the threads with superglue and press fit into the brass on already glued halfway on the shaft. (wood or fiberglass, or carbon fiber shaft...old tent poles, driveway marker poles , etc.). For broadheads heat the end of threaded rod, hammer flat (like a screwdriver), grind it pointed, then chop it off (angle-grinder, vise or hacksaw) the length of all-thread. The harder type threaded rod heads can be hardened, (Heated and quenched) . By feel you'll probably know which one is higher carbon type threaded rod. I've also used aluminum tubing instead of brass for pistol crossbow bolts. The archery stores will sell the fletches, and nocks. Or a more traditional string and feathers could be used. A pencil sharpener (large hole) can be used to taper the end for fitting the nock, or taper it w/ utility razor... Srry no links for the arrows besides what others mentioned. I'm actually designing a version of this arrow with a long plastic automotive funnel (cut section) rather than fletches epoxied on ,which should bring down deer sized game or larger from a "spudgun" pnuematic or combustion design... :twisted: These are basically disposable, but they beat $30/ea. arrows that get lost every other shot. :x
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Post by Madax132 on Oct 30, 2011 20:47:46 GMT
It says the draw weight is 50 pounds.
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Post by Madax132 on Oct 30, 2011 20:48:10 GMT
Can someone point me to a good bow that a welsh archer would have used then?
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Post by Dampiel on Oct 30, 2011 20:57:06 GMT
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Post by Madax132 on Oct 30, 2011 20:58:16 GMT
More specific? I'm actually looking for one modeled after one of the bows used by welsh archers?
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Post by Dampiel on Oct 30, 2011 21:00:38 GMT
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Post by Madax132 on Oct 30, 2011 21:06:55 GMT
I thought I had heard that England recruited many of their archers from Wales but I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm 6 foot 1 with a corresponding arm length. What draw length should I go for, I'm probably going to go for the 50-55 since I'm a novice and this will be my first bow, I have pretty good upper body strength as well, is it comparable to any exercises? Last question what are the advantages of the horn tips?
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Post by Dampiel on Oct 30, 2011 21:18:44 GMT
I'm 6'1"-6'2"ish and my draw length is is right around 31".As for draw weight I started on a 60lb bow but wish I had started at around 45lb a heavier bow does/will encourage bad form an habits.Any exercise that works the back,chest and shoulders will help.Horn tips to my understanding are a hold over from heavy yew warbows were the string would wear/saw through the nocks but I could be wrong.
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Post by Madax132 on Oct 30, 2011 21:33:09 GMT
thanks for all the help +1
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Post by Dampiel on Oct 30, 2011 21:52:45 GMT
No problem.
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Post by Aaron on Nov 1, 2011 6:05:00 GMT
You will want to get your draw length measured, it is not based only on height/arm length, but also (and very importantly) your anchor point. I'm 6'3" and my draw length is 31", but someone the same height and build as you may not necessarily have the same draw length, and it's very important for your bow to have a draw length that matches your own.
It's not too hard to measure it yourself, but any outdoor/archery shop will help you measure it no problem (I'd really recommend getting it checked this way).
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Post by Madax132 on Nov 1, 2011 17:57:02 GMT
Thanks for the advice.
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Post by Aaron on Nov 1, 2011 18:05:47 GMT
No problem. And the Rudderbows link someone posted earlier is a damn good place to get a bow. I've purchased one from them a few years back (hickory-backed ipe english longbow, 45lb@31") and he does great work. Plan on getting a 60lb tri-lam osage ELB from him next time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2011 15:52:56 GMT
Madax, I am a new guy, but I am an archer and thought I would pass on My process for buying arrows, and then if you want, how to make them. First, I buy my arrows, nocks and inserts (If carbon) and an extra string. You will want to use B-50 or Dacron for your strings, NEVER any other material. With your bow being 55# at 20 inches, arrow length for the sake of safety will be 20 1/2 to 20 1/4 inches. Never draw your bow past 20 inches. If you stick with wood arrows you can get by with a pocket knife, Elmers glue, and an Arizona EZ fletch. If you want to measure your draw length, one way is to put a clothes pin on an arrow and draw, and cut the arrow where the cloths pin is left, or take a yard stick and put one end in the center of your sternum and then put your hands together and measure where tour finger tips end up, or spread your arms out and measure fingertip to finger tip and divide by 2 for your draw length. I would stay away from high pound short draw bows. They can be a pain, But if you really like them, Bear Paw bows makes some that can be drawn to 32 inches. Hope it was helpful.
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Post by Dampiel on Nov 14, 2011 16:00:10 GMT
I'm going to disagree on the B-50 or Dacron being the only material to use for strings. I use waxed linen to make my own and have never had a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2011 16:15:10 GMT
With the appropriate strand count for the draw weight heck yeah, I was meaning that they should stay away from D?-97, fast flight and the super strings, unless the bow is designed for them. I make mine out of B-50 and use heavy arrows. To me this makes for a quieter shot, but that's just my personnel preference. I have no proof to back that up.
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