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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 11:04:17 GMT
Hi people,
I got a new Japanese made Katori bokken and its beautiful, and then, I accidentally spill my cup of water on it. The bokken is not laquered and its just smooth with no chemical finish. Witht eh water seep into the grains and weaken the strength of the bokken?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 11:50:36 GMT
You need to wipe it off and oil it down
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 12:20:30 GMT
Hi people, I got a new Japanese made Katori bokken and its beautiful, and then, I accidentally spill my cup of water on it. The bokken is not laquered and its just smooth with no chemical finish. Witht eh water seep into the grains and weaken the strength of the bokken? Are we really talking a cup of water........ or are we talking 'left in the rain for 3 hours ' water ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 13:05:57 GMT
You should also really seal your katana with a clear lacquer or something because you don't want it getting stained or wrecked
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 13:44:51 GMT
you can also use bee wax for wood and polish that in works great for protection of wood made items
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 15:37:46 GMT
Acup of water chopchop. haha. Cause after the spill.its feels totally different.
Thanks, ppl ,for the tips.
But wont laquer harden the outside of the bokken and make it "brittle"?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 23:25:09 GMT
I seal my woods with fish oil personally
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2007 2:10:10 GMT
I would wait for the water you spilled to completely dry before applying any oil or sealer. Sealing in moisture is no good
Just my .02
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2007 7:41:12 GMT
When the wood is sanded it pushes down the fibers of the wood which makes it feel ultra smooth but when the water hydrates the fibers they stand back up making it go back to its true position. If you don't like the feeling I would suggest you get some varying grits of sandpaper and gradually work your way down untill you get your desired smoothness, just remember to very lighly wipe the bokken over with a damp regularly to hydrate the wood so you can feel the actual level of smoothness. Then leave t to dry and give it a good oiling.
I personally wouldn't seal the wood in any way, my Senseis have allways told me not to seal any wooden weapon and if you buy one with a coating to sand the coating off beacuse it drys the wood out making it brittle. Just oil it requalry and it should be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2007 10:55:13 GMT
Hey musashi,
I was actually looking for ways to make it smooth again, blisters are not cool at all. LOL You mentioned wiping it with damp cloth, wont it make the fibers stand back up again like you said previously?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2007 12:25:12 GMT
I hope this makes sense ( I am going to call each time you sand the Bokken all over a layer) before starting each layer wipe it down with the damp cloth (you may need to do 4 or 5 layers in one grit). The resoning behind this is that by making the fibers stand up inbetween each layer they get worn down each time making them smalleruntill they are so small they are equall to the level of grit you are using. It takes a lot of time and patience to do a good job but trust me the results are worth it. I have a set of Tonfa that I sanded 2 or 3 layers a night two weeks later they are smooth as a baby's bottom. Hope that all made sense,lol.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2007 16:37:22 GMT
Seems like I've some work to do.LOL.
I hope it doesnt change the shape of the bokken tsuka much.
Musashi, What style do you practise by the way?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2007 20:11:33 GMT
At the moment Matayoshi kobudo and a bit of Tahi chi. I know Kobudo dosn't use swords but two of my Senseis have trained in Iaido and they shows us sword techniques because they say in order do defend yourself against a swod you first must know how to use it or something to that efect. I am having a bit of a break right now, yr 12 and exams and what not but I am planning on getting back into class after Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2007 6:24:51 GMT
Kobudo and Koryu... are they pretty much the same thing? Some koryu do have weapons training.
Its quite true that to know how to defend from a sword you need to know how to use it. Whats the syllabus like in Matayoshi kobudo ? All unarmed techniques?
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Post by tajima on Oct 31, 2007 7:50:13 GMT
Err...Kobudo is Okinawan traditional weapons: -Sai, a prong weapon with blunt blade. -Nunchaku, well, y'know. -Jitte, a one-prong Sai for catching swords. -Kama, a sickle. -Tonfa, a bit like a police nightstick. There are heaps of others, they are just a few. I practise Kobudo regularly (I am going tomorrow night, infact!) And if you want to know anything else about it please feel free to PM me
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2007 8:16:38 GMT
I see, looks very interesting.
So its mainly weapons practise? Do you have grading? If yes how is it done?
All along i thought kobudo was another name for koryu. So its different...LOL
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2007 9:09:02 GMT
Yes there is grading, bascically each level ushually introduces a new weapon and new kata for previously learned weapons. To pass a grading test you prform kata and Kumi(I belive it is called) which is kind of like a pre arranged duel with a partner. I am lucky because at my Dojo there are only a couple of us who own our own weapons so we lower ranking students get taught stuff before we are ment to so that the brown belts can borrow ours.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2007 17:22:00 GMT
I see.
So its about learning weapons. Maybe youtube might have some videos on it.
Thanks, Tajima and musashi, for the info.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2007 13:29:48 GMT
not a big fan of tradition ...think of it like a cricket bat ...and if all else fails "mr sheen"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2007 17:01:41 GMT
hm?
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