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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2011 4:31:25 GMT
Hi everyone! I found you guys after after a lot of searching and I was hoping you could help me. About 5 years ago I purchased a sword from a store. Now I purchased it because I liked the way it looked, not because it was a replica of any particular sword. Shortly afterwards, I found out what type of sword it most likely was, but I have since forgotten and many hours of searching has yielded no results. I then found this place and thought it looked like there were some knowledgeable folks here, so I thought I would give it a try. Can anyone help me with what style of sword this is: My Sword by CloneEmperor, on Flickr Before anyone asks, this is not a terribly expensive sword, but I thought it was well made for the price ($100 - $150 I think) and more importantly, I liked the way it looked. Thanks for any help you can give me!
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Sept 2, 2011 6:44:32 GMT
Hate to break it to you, mate, but that's a cheap-o wallhanger, exactly like this one sold at True Swords. The actual tachi styling on it is quite nice, but it's really just a stainless steel wallhanger. Acid/wire etched hamon, no kissaki, probably cast zinc fittings, and what looks to be a stamped out blade; in those respects, it looks exactly like the wallhanger katana I've got proped up against my dresser right now. Anyways, that aside, the basic styling of the sword itself ( minus the extra long curved tsuka) is a general tachi style. My interest in Japanese swords has waned significantly in the last year, so I couldn't tell you the proper name of that particular style, but that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2011 5:09:30 GMT
Thanks for your response. I knew going in that it wasn't a high quality blade, basically a wallhanger, and I wasn't really expecting anyone to say that I found a diamond in the rough. If anyone does know the name for this style I would appreciate it, but otherwise, thanks for the information!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2011 5:47:03 GMT
I'll be in you're shoes tomorrow. Sry can't help with the sword. Kindda looks like Leonardo's with a really long curved grip. Good Luck
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Post by MOK on Sept 12, 2011 8:09:16 GMT
It's a fairly common wallhanger, usually sold as a "reverse-handled jin tachi" or something to that effect. Goes for about 30-50 bucks. Google finds quite a few matches; here's one. AFAIK, the deal with these "reverse-handled" replicas seems to be that the design is allegedly of Chinese origin, supposedly replicating either Japanese blades imported to Imperial China and fitted with Chinese furniture or Japanese swords dressed in imitation of Chinese style. It's an entirely modern idea, though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2011 19:13:38 GMT
Thanks for your help, that was very useful information about it.
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Post by MOK on Sept 15, 2011 19:23:08 GMT
You know, it's pretty unquestionably a pure wallhanger... but the furniture actually looks kinda nice, especially the scabbard. If they have any kind of structural integrity, you could look into replacing the blade with a cheap Masahiro or Musashi (they make functional blades of perfectly good steel that you can get for under $100).
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Post by Elheru Aran on Sept 15, 2011 20:27:17 GMT
This is not a bad idea. Even if the blade doesn't fit the scabbard, perhaps the scabbard fittings can be adapted to fit the replacement blade's scabbard. I can't imagine that it's particularly efficient with that long down-curved grip, though... I would definitely replace that with a shorter tsuka, perhaps with a similar but less extreme curve to it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2011 22:21:16 GMT
The reverse grip seems really odd to me -- I wonder why the people who allegedly designed it thought it would be a good idea. Still, there are a lot of things you can do to get some sort of blade to fit that scabbard.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Sept 15, 2011 22:32:54 GMT
It (reportedly) gives better control of the weapon, which I believe is why it's used in Olympic epee grips; on a dao (the only weapon I personally know of that has a canted hilt historically), it'd allow the relatively blade heavy weapon to be manipulated easier, most likely.
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Post by MOK on Sept 15, 2011 23:24:15 GMT
Oh, there are lots of historical swords with forward curved handles, including most military sabers and many shamshir, kilij, messer, innumerable blade forms from South-East Asia, etc. Also one of my favorite swords ever, the massive scimitar of Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror in the Topkapi collections: It's good on light thrusting swords (and "weapons" like modern sport fencing equipment) because it allows you to align the blade with the forearm without needing to flex your wrist as much, and makes it easier to control the blade with the last three fingers; on cutting swords it can give a little bit of extra leverage on chops and draw cuts. That said, most of these are one-handed weapons. There are also two-handers - like one (in)famous claymore with four quillons and a narwhal horn grip - but these are far rarer, and their grips never as long or as aggressively curved as this one.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Sept 16, 2011 0:29:36 GMT
Well, I did say the only one I knew of personally. Some of those you mentioned I never really considered as being canted since, from the ones I've seen (mostly repros and a couple antiques), the hilt only curves in the last inch, whereas a dao's hilt, when done right, normally curves at about the middle.
Anyways, another semi-example of a two-hander with a canted hilt is a piece by Jody Samson; one of his Elven sabers has a slight cant in the last few inches. My original design Me'are originally looked very much like this sword, except with a straight, double edged blade, despite having a radically different inspiration (Count Dooku's lightsaber).
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Post by Justin1011 on Sept 30, 2021 8:46:13 GMT
What kind of sword is this
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Post by pgandy on Sept 30, 2021 12:32:31 GMT
??? You have posted to a 10 year old thread and with no photos no one could possibly know what you are talking about. I suggest that you join the forum, if only briefly, and start a new thread with photos.
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