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Jun 20, 2007 4:30:37 GMT
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This is aimed mostly at Marc Ridgeway and ChopChop, but any feedback would be appreciated.
I mentioned earlier getting into Toyama Ryu.
Well I've been practicing for a bit now, using my teacher(best friend)'s old crappy iaito... it's pretty horrible. Needless to say he was quick in upgrading to other swords.
Now comes the time that I need an iaito of my own. As my Noto isn't the greatest yet(though I'm getting much better day by day...), I don't want to screw up the koiguchi of a shinken. So I need a blunted blade for now, but since I'm going to soon buy a shinken(probably a Cheness... maybe a PPK), I don't want this to be TOO much of an investment.
Now, I've handled a Paul Chen Practical katana and was completely fine with the fittings and finish of it overall. So I don't need anything spectacular. I'm not looking to buy one of those 'entry-level' professional grade $500 iaito.
I was noticing on Cheness' site that they have iaito for around $200. These are fit together as nicely as their shinken, yes? Would that do for about a year of iai practice? Should I save up a little more to get something a bit better? that's dirt cheap for an iaito, but if it holds up for everything I need(like I said, the PK of the iaito world is all i'm after) then I think it'll be a good idea.
Any thoughts from you experienced Iaidoka?
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Jun 20, 2007 11:06:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2007 11:06:39 GMT
Hello mate , If you intend on getting a PPK or a PK I noticed in the Casiberia 2007 catalogue that they now do a stainless steel Iaito version of the PPK for $US299 (They use all the same koshirae as PPK just a different blade) It is on the same page as the sharpened PPK in the bottom left-hand corner. This e-bay seller has quite a few reasonable priced Japanese Iaitos stores.ebay.com/Gichudo. The Japanese ones are prettier but I ruined the blade on my last one from constant use in jittejutsu. The Japanese ones all use alloy-zinc blades which are not meant for contact, especially with a steel jitte so this time I have ordered (SBG Paul said he posted it today) a carbon steel Iaito www.chenessinc.com/delux27iaito.htmfrom Cheness. I had to order another tsuba with it as I am a bit sick of the old Shura tsuba they now use on it. I enjoy properly cleaning a Japanese blade as you have to with carbon blades, and it will also take the contact better with other steel weapons. I am more Jodoka, than Iaidoka these days . It is my way of branching out . I assume you just want it for Iai practice so I see no reason why a Cheness would not suit you. Most instructors prefer you to not have a flashy, brightly coloured saya or tsuka when first learning. As you may understand for any art you partake in, especially a Japanese one, you must be humble in your learning and you do want your instructors to take you seriously.For instance, this would be a bad one to buy, www.globalgear.com.au/prod403.htm It is just too showy! (If you know what I mean). It takes me about 20 minutes just to fold my Gi, obi , and hakama before I put them away as I feel your respect to your art or koryu should reflect all aspects of its entirity and be a mark on your commitment to it. Oh yeah last thing Adam, If you get one with a bo-hi in it it will sing to you if you are swinging it correctly for the cut. I love the sound they make in the air . If it makes a whirring noise the angle is wrong. This is a good way to train you to not bend shinken when you finally move onto tameshigiri with thick bamboo. ;D I had to include this just because if I was CASHMAN I would probably get one ! www.budo-aoi.com/iaito/14_dotanuki.htmlGood luck
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Jun 20, 2007 13:17:01 GMT
Post by rammstein on Jun 20, 2007 13:17:01 GMT
This is sort of off topic...
...how the hell do you pronounce "Iaido"? I've been saying "Eye-ee-do" but I'm sure that's wrong...
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Jun 20, 2007 20:22:37 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2007 20:22:37 GMT
It's ee-yai-do. Hey, Adam, I have that iaito, it's very nice, make sure you get the right length, sensei is still giving me grief about my short sword.
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Jun 20, 2007 22:01:02 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2007 22:01:02 GMT
I need either a 2-3-5 or a 2-4-0 blade, which basically means anything from 28'' to about 28 2/3'' blade. I've been doing iai for over a month now... and what you're describing(i'm sure you know this) is called tachi-kaze(sword-wind-sound). I was thinking about buying Cheness's deluxe type 9 iaito, but I also don't like the tsuba. I called Paul Chen to see if he had any of the tsuba from his type 8 iaitos(the oak leaves in a yin-yang pattern) since he didn't have them listed on the parts page. he said yes - made my day. The symbol of my Aikido dojo is exactly that tsuba: Oak Leaves in a Yin yang pattern. You can see it on this website: www.aikidooffresno.com
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Jun 20, 2007 22:09:53 GMT
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Jun 21, 2007 1:04:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2007 1:04:23 GMT
Thats cool. You should put up a personal webpage with some more pics.
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Jun 21, 2007 3:19:25 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2007 3:19:25 GMT
I've got more pics on my myspace, which is linked to in the Cafe.
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Jun 21, 2007 5:11:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2007 5:11:26 GMT
I need either a 2-3-5 or a 2-4-0 blade, which basically means anything from 28'' to about 28 2/3'' blade. I've been doing iai for over a month now... and what you're describing(i'm sure you know this) is called tachi-kaze(sword-wind-sound). I was thinking about buying Cheness's deluxe type 9 iaito, but I also don't like the tsuba. I called Paul Chen to see if he had any of the tsuba from his type 8 iaitos(the oak leaves in a yin-yang pattern) since he didn't have them listed on the parts page. he said yes - made my day. The symbol of my Aikido dojo is exactly that tsuba: Oak Leaves in a Yin yang pattern. You can see it on this website: www.aikidooffresno.comYeah I think the old Shura tsuba should be retired . I was going to ask for a willow tsuba as well but was informed it was made from alloy and was refered to the fact a steel tsuba would weigh a little more and sustain less damage if we play a bit rough in class ;D. Although bit of luck on your part for it being your schools symbol. I got the flying crane tsuba instead with it . Will post piccies when I've changed it for all to see . Sorry for not phrasing 'tachi-kaze' in Japanese, but I don't want to exclude or bewilder any novices who happen to be reading my quotes mate.
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Jun 21, 2007 7:55:31 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2007 7:55:31 GMT
I understand. BTW, Chopchop, which ryu do you study? In your guide you mentioned training for 18 years... what rank are you?
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Jul 19, 2007 2:24:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2007 2:24:39 GMT
Actually its (ee-eye-doe) (I)-being (AI)-harmony (DO)-way
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Jul 19, 2007 9:57:07 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2007 9:57:07 GMT
I understand. BTW, Chopchop, which ryu do you study? In your guide you mentioned training for 18 years... what rank are you? Just seen this mate. Sometimes I am too busy waffling on about my dislike of firearms and forget little old JSA. ;D When I was 15, for a bit over two years I received kenjutsu training from an elderly Japanese neighbour. Who because of his death, training ceased and his family moved back to Japan. I met up with his granson, my opponent, a few years ago when he returned to oz for a surfing holiday . I was graded brown belt in Togakure ryu,before I became a bit dissillusioned with the heirarchy. Besides battodo training with shortened sword, I was taught a few other weapons like shuriken, kama, tanto, and hanbo which I still practice today. After a sabatical from martial arts training, which I did alot of travelling for business and pleasure. I learnt kundalini yoga as a re-focus for my unending energy After deciding about five years ago to study a koryu, I found Shinto muso ryu. All my teachers are classically trained in Japan and are very regimental but encouraging with my training, I suppose you could call my "rank" as you say, Omote-waza Jô Kyû. What attracted me to this particular school was the primary use of the Jo, as compared to the ken. Before I started a would of gone the blade if givin the choice, but now I actually prefer the Jo. We learn how to break fingers, bones and crack skulls with this extremely versatile weapon, I never realised how many weak points a swordsman had until I started training. We are also taught as part of the Shinto muso ryu curriculum:Shinto ryu kenjutsu,Ikkakû-ryû juttejutsu , Isshin-ryû kusarigamajutsu, Uchida-ryû tanjôjutsu and Ittatsu-ryû hojôjutsu. As I have said before I wish in life to train my body , not my ego. While I have no formal gradings as such, I am totally satisfied with my training and the balance it shares with my young family. I think I will always regard myself as a student,keeps me on my toes . Most people can climb the tallest mountain, but if you want a REAL challenge, try raising kids !
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