New Conan Movie Sword

ill give it a chance...when i watch it via torrent download opening day. i wont pay $ to see it, and ill TRY to ignore the Cheap low budget Sci Fi COMPUTER ANIMATED semprini. and the LARP weapons. and the not bulked enough Conan, and the story line which im sure will blow since theyre depending on said Low Budget Sci Fi graphics to make it "better than the original".....Who am i kidding...ill watch it but ill pretend its not conan, ill pretend its one of the many various low budget sci fi/fantasy movies out there that were worth watching through One time because nothing else is on. If i think of it like that im sure i can sit through it and somewhat enjoy it. another way one can enjoy it, ill hold it to the standards of Conan the Destroyer...if its as good as THAT movie, ill accept it. LOL! :twisted:

Well, I just checked out the newer trailer.

...Yeah, it looks alright. Probably won't be mindblowing, but it seems to be a pretty fun fantasy movie.

Also, it looks nothing at all like the 1982 movie, which I would like to repeat is a good thing. This is not a remake of the old movie, nor should it be. I cannot stress that enough.



...Yes, because the hero of the story getting stabbed in the back by a random mook and dying in a pool of blood before he can save the princess/kingdom/world is so much more interesting then him actually winning.

:roll:

I only ever watched the animated series. Which, admittedly, I recall as being pretty okay, nonwithstanding the serious liberties they had to take to even make the concept suitable for a Saturday morning cartoon. As TV Tropes puts it: "if you had to make a cartoon for children to watch starring Conan, this is the best and closest you will get to keeping the same spirit."

The live action TV series? ...I wasn't even aware there was one, honestly.

A hero that could get killed by a random mook, but overcomes the odds stacked against him is more interesting/dramatic than a hero for whom winning is a foregone conclusion.

I realize that the hero winning is pretty much a foregone conclusion anyway in fiction, but suspension of disbelief and enjoyment of the suspense/drama/danger is easier if the character isn't too overpowered/invulnerable.

exactly! and in the books i read i always got the that vibe and you know the book got pretty boring when you read for the seventh time and conan withstood a blow that would have easily felled a lesser man blah blah

One word: Kryptonite. Seriously, they use some variant or another every other issue or so; otherwise, it would be boring because he's effectively the strongest being in existence.


I think you mean "reading Conan". Sword & Sorcery is not about characters who are so overpowered as to be boring; that'd be like books dedicated to the life of the Lord Ruler, the antagonist from Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy. He was so powerful that Vin had to draw in the power of Preservation itself to defeat him and even then she couldn't kill him; he had to die on his own from old age after the only things keeping him young were blasted off his arms. You could flay the man alive, burn a house down around him until he was nothing but bones, decapitate him, and none of it would kill him. Hell, he took two spears to the chest and didn't even flinch or break stride. He was also the most powerful Allomancer to ever live until Vin drew so much of Preservation that she effectively killed herself a few years after she beat him.

He's so powerful and invulnerable that his winning is a foregone conclusion. Just the thought of opposing him is enough to send near everyone to their knees. Can you imagine how boring a book dedicated to his life would be? That's why he's the antagonist only.

Same thing with Conan. He's unbeatable, so even if a dagger to the throat or an axe to the head would kill him, those blows never even come close to him.

I think, in that respect, Game of Thrones is the most realistic fantasy novel ever written. Heroes don't always win and they don't always live. Great example: Kelsier from the aforementioned Mistborn trilogy. For the majority of the first novel, he was the protagonist, always trying to bring about the downfall of the Lord Ruler with his mysterious Eleventh Metal. At the end of his life, he basically died a failure because he neither killed the Lord Ruler nor overthrew the Final Empire; he died because he fought the Lord Ruler and got a spear through the chest. But in the end, he still succeeded because his martyrdom inspired the people to rebel, led to the death of the Lord Ruler and the toppling of the Final Empire. Does the fact that he personally lost and died make him any less of a hero? No, it doesn't.

I don't feel that way about Conan, necessarily. (Superman, yeah. That's why Batman is better ) I was just expressing the principle.

just watched Ironclad, it was awesome to see the actor who played Buliwief return with the same barbaric viking look as he had in the 13th warrior, hes a badass even in his old age