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Post by Federico on Jun 23, 2011 21:13:55 GMT
Clearly you guys haven't seen the last one. It was pretty amazing. Here's a scene from it.  |
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Post by ecovolo on Jun 23, 2011 21:25:07 GMT
. . . or did you catch the "Twilight" Sesame Street episode? A personal favorite of mine :mrgreen: :  --Edward |
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Jun 23, 2011 21:31:01 GMT
hahhahahhahahha OMG thats epic
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Post by Talon on Jun 23, 2011 21:43:26 GMT
:lol: excellent +1
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Post by SeanF on Jun 23, 2011 23:43:55 GMT
And I hate it when I see all sort of BS I consider fantasy being classified as sci-fi.  |
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Post by nddave on Jun 25, 2011 3:19:14 GMT
wow, lot of twilight haters among the forum. glad I'm not alone.
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Post by nddave on Jun 25, 2011 3:24:18 GMT
I know what you mean. I was browsing a local book store and found dragonlance, lord of the rings, and wheel of time in the sci-fi section. sadly the fantasy section had you guessed it, twilight...
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jun 25, 2011 3:47:42 GMT
I'da punched the storekeeper.
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Post by nddave on Jun 25, 2011 3:53:22 GMT
two old ladies run it...
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Post by HouShe on Jun 25, 2011 7:52:03 GMT
Sometimes you've got to do something terrible to do the right thing.
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Post by Mr.Wallace on Jun 25, 2011 10:19:19 GMT
Never underestimate the power of a zippo in a book store.
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Post by Falcon576 on Jun 27, 2011 7:13:20 GMT
Sometimes old ladies need a good face punching as much as anyone else...
Plus you the cool thing about fighting old ladies is you can try out those crazy moves you've seen on T.V. or in video games and they usually work. Spinning hook kicks and Mortal Kombat upper-cuts are hard to defend against when you're 85 years old with a hip implant.
I'm glad the over-all vote is that Twilight vampires suck. Making spaghetti for human coming over to dinner? Garbage. As soon as they used Claude DeBussy as an example of Ed-wad being "cool" you knew it was doomed. Maybe Mussorgsky's "Night on Bald Mountain" or a little "Toccata and Fugue in D Minor", (D minor; the saddest of chords.) But Claire de Lune? As an example of immortal education, experience, and superhuman power? Pathetic.
And sparkling in the sunlight? Next up will be a story where Steven Seagal uses Bonnie Bell lip gloss and Chuck Norris wears Hello Kitty panties.
Now I REALLY want to puch some old ladies.
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Post by Anders on Jun 29, 2011 17:42:45 GMT
In regards to the Twilight saga, I have said this before and I will say it again: Critizing Stephanie Meyer's writing for "ruining vampires" by making them sparkle, or because her characters are of awful people, or for her perception of romance and what constitutes a healthy relationship; all of that is kinda silly when there are a lot more valid criticisms to be made about Twilight.
I mean, you don't have to like these books but there are a million girls out there who thought it was totally awesome and, let's be perfectly honest here, that is entirely subjective territory. Who are we to call the Twilight fans wrong for enjoying these stories?
What is not subjective is the actual, literal prose which -at least as far at the first book goes- I do not hesitate to call atrocious. This is not a matter of taste: this concerns the art of writing which is something people in the writing business can, will and should impose certain standards for. Basically, Twilight reads like a first draft, and it baffles me it made it to the printers in that state. Here, let me quote the actual book:
Not counting the preface, that's the very first paragraph in the book. That is how Meyer chose to start her epic vampire romance saga. The best thing is, that paragraph is entirely useless because the following one would have made a way better introduction - you could just delete those four sentences entirely and it would have been an improvement.
Yet a professional editor apparently read that and thought it made for a good first impression, providing a telling glimpse into the troubled mind of our main heroine. We are talking about people who are payed to tell writers when their writing sucks and how to fix it.
Then there's this masterpiece:
That's one of the worst sentences I have ever read in actual print. Ever. Full stop.
Like, you guys really think sparkling vampires stalking selfish teenagers is what makes this book bad? Because it's not, really. What makes this book bad is that it is actually badly written. Literally.
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Post by RobrtLand on Jun 29, 2011 20:46:50 GMT
+1 Anders. I actually read the whole Twilight "saga" (yes, I bought it...shame on me). Besides the pop vampires, there were times when I actually wanted to throw the book to a nearby wall, not so much for how it was written as for how silly it was.
Most of the book are endless passages of self-loathing describing the unworthiness of the main character for being wanted by two alternatives of the "perfect" superhuman boyfriend. Even my girlfriend grow bored of Bella's sulky attitude.
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Post by Anders on Jun 30, 2011 0:57:30 GMT
You bought all of them? Geez, I just bought the first one to see what all the fuss was about.  I aknowledge that. But my point was that the series have a lot of fans who, apparently, identified quite well with Bella somehow and thought these stories were the pinnacle of romance. Really, wether or not you or I like the story or the characters is a matter of taste. The fact remains that Meyer sold a million books, despite writing the worst prose I have ever seen outside of fanfiction. I just kinda hesitate to criticize the storytelling ability of anyone who can pull off a feat like that. God knows it wasn't her brilliant command of the English language that sold those books. Besides, I... actually kinda liked Bella, for some reason. I can't exactly remember why right now, because it's been ages since I tried to read that book, but I distinctly recall I didn't dislike her. *shrug* |
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Post by SeanF on Jun 30, 2011 1:22:50 GMT
Well Anders I have to say that is a very mature perspective you have.
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Post by RobrtLand on Jun 30, 2011 7:27:05 GMT
Yep...I was hoping Meyer could improve his writing skills by the fourth book. It happens. :roll: Actually, the whole series sold more than 100 million books. :shock: Of course, it's only my opinion. Obviously the core audience are female teens, which generally don't give a fig for prose or plot quality as long as the work reflect their own sentiments and hopes (hot guys, loneliness, parents dissaproval, confusion and apathy towards the world, etc.) It was too much teenager sentimentality for me...I even cringe with Sansa Stark. Oh, and not always the financial success correlates with quality (yes, Hollywood, I'm looking at you) |
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Jun 30, 2011 12:31:32 GMT
dont forget that Half of the ticket sales to the movies was GFs FORCING their bfs to go against there will. High sales doesnt mean much lol
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jun 30, 2011 12:42:51 GMT
Not to mention the girls who paid to see each movie half a dozen times.
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Post by MrAcheson on Jul 13, 2011 17:55:45 GMT
Not a huge fan of Stephanie Meyer, but I'd much rather read her than Christopher Paolini. The first scene in Eragon reads like something I wrote in junior high. Probably because it was something Christopher Paolini wrote in junior high. If only my parents had been publishers...
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